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I still find the official story behind the Hawaii thing to be kind of suspect.

by Enginerrrd 5y ago

gibolt 5y ago
Incompetent Contractors made a terrible UI and a trainee didn't understand it. Pretty clear cut failure
- ecpottinger 5y ago
  I seen too many times when something is made by someone who understands what the system does but never thinks what a rank beginner who is suddenly facing the same display going to think. It is hard to remember what it is like for someone new to a system.
  - gibolt 5y ago
    It isn't hard, it just requires active thought. Even better, get an uninitiated person and watch them try it.
- olivermarks 5y ago
  Then congress person Gabbard was very clear there needed to be repercussions following the Hawaii nuclear strike alert fail.
BitwiseFool 5y ago
I have extended family members who are employees of Hawaii's State Government. The stories they tell... Let me just say that the sheer incompetence and horrible systems design people claim are responsible for that day are entirely reasonable. The heart of the problem is that government jobs are extremely lucrative for the people of Hawaii because they pay well and because it is extraordinarily difficult to get fired from one. While direct nepotism isn't common, everyone is basically part of this giant extended family. Knowing the right person can land you one of these jobs-for-life even if you're barely qualified for it. There is also a culture of not rocking the boat. Trying to get freeloaders fired subjects you to ostracism. So what ends up happening is a few people end up doing the majority of the work. While this isn't unique to Hawaii, those people who are actually productive end up following their own version of 'the process' and the result is that people are rarely sure if what they are told to do is really what they should be doing. I would like to submit this as supporting evidence: "A password for the Hawaii emergency agency was hiding in a public photo, written on a post-it note" https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/a-password-for-the-hawaii-emergency-agency-was-hiding-in-a-public-photo-written-on-a-post-it-note/articleshow/62531465.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/a-password-for-the-hawai...

I still find the official story behind the Hawaii thing to be kind of suspect.

gibolt 5y ago

Incompetent Contractors made a terrible UI and a trainee didn't understand it. Pretty clear cut failure

ecpottinger 5y ago
I seen too many times when something is made by someone who understands what the system does but never thinks what a rank beginner who is suddenly facing the same display going to think. It is hard to remember what it is like for someone new to a system.
- gibolt 5y ago
  It isn't hard, it just requires active thought. Even better, get an uninitiated person and watch them try it.
olivermarks 5y ago
Then congress person Gabbard was very clear there needed to be repercussions following the Hawaii nuclear strike alert fail.

BitwiseFool 5y ago

I have extended family members who are employees of Hawaii's State Government. The stories they tell... Let me just say that the sheer incompetence and horrible systems design people claim are responsible for that day are entirely reasonable. The heart of the problem is that government jobs are extremely lucrative for the people of Hawaii because they pay well and because it is extraordinarily difficult to get fired from one. While direct nepotism isn't common, everyone is basically part of this giant extended family. Knowing the right person can land you one of these jobs-for-life even if you're barely qualified for it. There is also a culture of not rocking the boat. Trying to get freeloaders fired subjects you to ostracism. So what ends up happening is a few people end up doing the majority of the work. While this isn't unique to Hawaii, those people who are actually productive end up following their own version of 'the process' and the result is that people are rarely sure if what they are told to do is really what they should be doing. I would like to submit this as supporting evidence: "A password for the Hawaii emergency agency was hiding in a public photo, written on a post-it note" https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/a-password-for-the-hawaii-emergency-agency-was-hiding-in-a-public-photo-written-on-a-post-it-note/articleshow/62531465.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/a-password-for-the-hawai...