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The bitwarden mobile apps are using Xamarin? That's actually pretty impressive...I've never had any of the weird issues with the bitwarden app that I've had wit

The bitwarden mobile apps are using Xamarin? That's actually pretty impressive...I've never had any of the weird issues with the bitwarden app that I've had with other Xamarin apps in the past. The desktop app looks and feels like an electron app, so I'm far less impressed by it. At the very least it would be nice to have it in Qt or something like that.

mikece 5y ago
Bitwarden Mobile: https://github.com/bitwarden/mobile https://github.com/bitwarden/mobile I will freely admit I am strongly biased against Xamarin as there are so few cases where I think it's unequivocally the right choice, and Bitwarden isn't one of them. It would make more sense to take the work done in their desktop electron app and use that as part of an Ionic hybrid mobile app than to screw around with the layercake of bugs and mismatched APIs that Xamarin is. Moreover, since this is a serious app from a security point of view it really should go full vendor native IMO.
- iandinwoodie 5y ago
  Do you know of any open source mobile apps that are full vendor native for iOS and Android? I'd really like to peruse some examples of that.
  - mikece 5y ago
    I've been delving more into Podcast clients and on Graphene OS (Android) I really like AntennaPod: https://github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPod https://github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPod On iOS I pretty much stick with Castamatic and Overcast, both are full native iOS apps but neither are open source. I'm sure there's something listed at http://www.NewPodcastApps.com http://www.NewPodcastApps.com which is iOS and full Xcode native. UPDATE: 21 Open source apps written in Swift (including one I use every day: Firefox for iOS): https://medium.mybridge.co/21-amazing-open-source-ios-apps-written-in-swift-5e835afee98e https://medium.mybridge.co/21-amazing-open-source-ios-apps-w...
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    From a cursory look it seems that OsmAnd [1] and Signal [2] are native for both platforms. Signal Desktop looks like it's Electron-based, though. [1] popular OpenStreetMap client, https://github.com/osmandapp/ https://github.com/osmandapp/ [2] popular messaging app among privacy advocates, https://github.com/signalapp https://github.com/signalapp
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "desktop electron app and use that as part of an Ionic hybrid mobile app" Whatever you think of Xamarin, there is a special place in hell for all the buggy JS based mobile software. Its not an improvement, just a different flavour of crap.
- fomine3 5y ago
  > desktop electron app > Moreover, since this is a serious app from a security point of view it really should go full vendor native IMO. hmm
rvz 5y ago
> The desktop app looks and feels like an electron app, so I'm far less impressed by it. That is because it IS an Electron app. > At the very least it would be nice to have it in Qt or something like that. Sure, I hope so too. Unfortunately there are very few serious alternative password managers that are not using Electron for the desktop app these days. Seems like 1Password is on the way out too.
- _jal 5y ago
  Yeah, it is kind of amazing how quickly 1pw went to hell. It was a great app at one time. Then they forced cloud storage, subscriptions, Electron... it is like they decided to start acting like a private capital sunsetting cash extractor.
- cycomanic 5y ago
  keepassxc is Qt based and a serious alternative. I've been using it for >3 years and have only good things to say about it.
fomine3 5y ago
I've never noticed the app is made by Xamarin. Quite impressive app.

mikece 5y ago

Bitwarden Mobile: https://github.com/bitwarden/mobile https://github.com/bitwarden/mobile I will freely admit I am strongly biased against Xamarin as there are so few cases where I think it's unequivocally the right choice, and Bitwarden isn't one of them. It would make more sense to take the work done in their desktop electron app and use that as part of an Ionic hybrid mobile app than to screw around with the layercake of bugs and mismatched APIs that Xamarin is. Moreover, since this is a serious app from a security point of view it really should go full vendor native IMO.

iandinwoodie 5y ago
Do you know of any open source mobile apps that are full vendor native for iOS and Android? I'd really like to peruse some examples of that.
- mikece 5y ago
  I've been delving more into Podcast clients and on Graphene OS (Android) I really like AntennaPod: https://github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPod https://github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPod On iOS I pretty much stick with Castamatic and Overcast, both are full native iOS apps but neither are open source. I'm sure there's something listed at http://www.NewPodcastApps.com http://www.NewPodcastApps.com which is iOS and full Xcode native. UPDATE: 21 Open source apps written in Swift (including one I use every day: Firefox for iOS): https://medium.mybridge.co/21-amazing-open-source-ios-apps-written-in-swift-5e835afee98e https://medium.mybridge.co/21-amazing-open-source-ios-apps-w...
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  From a cursory look it seems that OsmAnd [1] and Signal [2] are native for both platforms. Signal Desktop looks like it's Electron-based, though. [1] popular OpenStreetMap client, https://github.com/osmandapp/ https://github.com/osmandapp/ [2] popular messaging app among privacy advocates, https://github.com/signalapp https://github.com/signalapp
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
"desktop electron app and use that as part of an Ionic hybrid mobile app" Whatever you think of Xamarin, there is a special place in hell for all the buggy JS based mobile software. Its not an improvement, just a different flavour of crap.
fomine3 5y ago
> desktop electron app > Moreover, since this is a serious app from a security point of view it really should go full vendor native IMO. hmm

rvz 5y ago

> The desktop app looks and feels like an electron app, so I'm far less impressed by it. That is because it IS an Electron app. > At the very least it would be nice to have it in Qt or something like that. Sure, I hope so too. Unfortunately there are very few serious alternative password managers that are not using Electron for the desktop app these days. Seems like 1Password is on the way out too.

_jal 5y ago
Yeah, it is kind of amazing how quickly 1pw went to hell. It was a great app at one time. Then they forced cloud storage, subscriptions, Electron... it is like they decided to start acting like a private capital sunsetting cash extractor.
cycomanic 5y ago
keepassxc is Qt based and a serious alternative. I've been using it for >3 years and have only good things to say about it.

fomine3 5y ago

I've never noticed the app is made by Xamarin. Quite impressive app.