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You're wrong, there is a very strong consensus. The first few entries are highly up voted. Take the first 2 as a basic definition or idea of the concept and the

You're wrong, there is a very strong consensus. The first few entries are highly up voted. Take the first 2 as a basic definition or idea of the concept and the 3rd one as an example.

katbyte 5y ago
am I? I don't think they are the same at all. I would take all the top" entires as entirely different on face value so what are you extrapolating from them that is similar? can you please concisely describe "woke" for us as it seems I am not the only one who is confused as to the meaning.
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  woke: - Deluded or fake awareness. - The act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woke https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woke
  - katbyte 5y ago
    Which one is it? Or both? Is one still woke if you are only one of the two?
    - throwawaylinux 5y ago
      Either/both. And yes one is if one is one. Glad I could clear that up for you. Really the word is very common, my 60 year old friend used it the other day at her birthday. I've even seen the old dinosaur mainstream media corporations use it. It really isn't some outlandish word that's impossible to grasp.
ben_w 5y ago
Even if you were correct — and the Wikipedia page shows the pejorative uses becoming common are a fairly recent step of the euphemism treadmill — that doesn’t help resolve @pjc50’s request’s the term be defined in a way that allows someone to pattern match against Intel’s behaviour. The comment @pjc50 replied to has been flagged, so I can’t be certain exactly what this is about, but the article is literally about a company responding to legal regulation which is itself ostensibly about a genocidal concentration camp. None of that is either (1) pretension, (2) deluded or fake, (3), about specifically black people.
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  I am correct, and most people can deduct and extrapolate and draw from other experiences and observations and don't need everything spelt out for them to "pattern-match".
  - ben_w 5y ago
    > don't need everything spelt out for them to "pattern-match". At least three people you’re responding to here don’t see how Intel is being “woke” in any pejorative sense. If I do as you suggest, deduct and extrapolate and draw from other experiences, I have two hypotheses: 1: you personally do not believe that there is a genocide occurring in these concentration camps with forced labour in them, and anyone who says there is, is just saying so for political points. 2: you personally think that forced labour in genocidal concentration camps is not a real crime, and anyone who says it is, is just saying so political points. Do you perhaps want to suggest a way to apply “woke”, as the pejorative you insist it must be, in a way that makes you look better?
    - throwawaylinux 5y ago
      > At least three people you’re responding to here don’t see how Intel is being “woke” in any pejorative sense. That's because they (claim to) not know what it means and are unwilling or incapable of finding out. And your hypotheses are laughable. My hypotheses is that they are based on nothing but an infantile emotional reaction to somebody using the word woke, which is now well entrenched in common vernacular whether you like it or not. EDIT: You can see the deleted comment if you change your settings.
      - ben_w 5y ago
        > That's because they (claim to) not know what it means and are unwilling or incapable of finding out. The definitions which you yourself have given, lead to my hypotheses. The fact you are digging in, using insults like “infantile” when you’re being given the chance to supply an alternative, actually makes me think worse — I always prefer to assume good faith, and in this case good faith was to assume you didn’t realise what you look like to others. Hence showing you and asking you to do better. All it would have taken to not lead to me thinking you’re using “woke” as an insult rather than an actual description would be for you to, y’know, not be snarky.

You're wrong, there is a very strong consensus. The first few entries are highly up voted. Take the first 2 as a basic definition or idea of the concept and the 3rd one as an example.

katbyte 5y ago

am I? I don't think they are the same at all. I would take all the top" entires as entirely different on face value so what are you extrapolating from them that is similar? can you please concisely describe "woke" for us as it seems I am not the only one who is confused as to the meaning.

throwawaylinux 5y ago
woke: - Deluded or fake awareness. - The act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woke https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woke
- katbyte 5y ago
  Which one is it? Or both? Is one still woke if you are only one of the two?
  - throwawaylinux 5y ago
    Either/both. And yes one is if one is one. Glad I could clear that up for you. Really the word is very common, my 60 year old friend used it the other day at her birthday. I've even seen the old dinosaur mainstream media corporations use it. It really isn't some outlandish word that's impossible to grasp.

ben_w 5y ago

Even if you were correct — and the Wikipedia page shows the pejorative uses becoming common are a fairly recent step of the euphemism treadmill — that doesn’t help resolve @pjc50’s request’s the term be defined in a way that allows someone to pattern match against Intel’s behaviour. The comment @pjc50 replied to has been flagged, so I can’t be certain exactly what this is about, but the article is literally about a company responding to legal regulation which is itself ostensibly about a genocidal concentration camp. None of that is either (1) pretension, (2) deluded or fake, (3), about specifically black people.

throwawaylinux 5y ago
I am correct, and most people can deduct and extrapolate and draw from other experiences and observations and don't need everything spelt out for them to "pattern-match".
- ben_w 5y ago
  > don't need everything spelt out for them to "pattern-match". At least three people you’re responding to here don’t see how Intel is being “woke” in any pejorative sense. If I do as you suggest, deduct and extrapolate and draw from other experiences, I have two hypotheses: 1: you personally do not believe that there is a genocide occurring in these concentration camps with forced labour in them, and anyone who says there is, is just saying so for political points. 2: you personally think that forced labour in genocidal concentration camps is not a real crime, and anyone who says it is, is just saying so political points. Do you perhaps want to suggest a way to apply “woke”, as the pejorative you insist it must be, in a way that makes you look better?
  - throwawaylinux 5y ago
    > At least three people you’re responding to here don’t see how Intel is being “woke” in any pejorative sense. That's because they (claim to) not know what it means and are unwilling or incapable of finding out. And your hypotheses are laughable. My hypotheses is that they are based on nothing but an infantile emotional reaction to somebody using the word woke, which is now well entrenched in common vernacular whether you like it or not. EDIT: You can see the deleted comment if you change your settings.
    - ben_w 5y ago
      > That's because they (claim to) not know what it means and are unwilling or incapable of finding out. The definitions which you yourself have given, lead to my hypotheses. The fact you are digging in, using insults like “infantile” when you’re being given the chance to supply an alternative, actually makes me think worse — I always prefer to assume good faith, and in this case good faith was to assume you didn’t realise what you look like to others. Hence showing you and asking you to do better. All it would have taken to not lead to me thinking you’re using “woke” as an insult rather than an actual description would be for you to, y’know, not be snarky.