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> Fast fashion is a root cause of a huge amount of fabric waste, plastic waste, and cost shifting of waste streams to developing nations. How does all of that
by 4oh9do 5y ago
> Fast fashion is a root cause of a huge amount of fabric waste, plastic waste, and cost shifting of waste streams to developing nations.
How does all of that waste compare to all of the waste involved in making your comment? Not just the infra required to host it and distribute it, but the devices required for you to make it. Kind of turning a blind eye to the amount of "cost shifting of waste streams to developing nations" that electronic devices create.
- foepys 5y agoThis is whataboutism. Fast fashion clothing often falls apart after a single wash and at the latest after two. They are meant to worn once and then to be disposed. I agree that some electronics like smartphones should be made to last for more than 2 years but fast fashion creates much, much more plastic waste on its own. We already know how to make longer lasting, more environment friendly clothing, so it's not like we couldn't do any better.
- Semaphor 5y ago> Fast fashion clothing often falls apart after a single wash and at the latest after two Is that hyperbole? Or is it really that bad? I always thought fast fashion meant stuff like those cheap Amazon brands (!Solid etc.) that only last around a year…
- bobthepanda 5y agoYour mileage may vary. Anecdotally, it seems like women’s fast fashion falls apart a lot faster than men’s apparel from the same brands. And some brands are a lot worse than others (e.g. Forever 21 is a lot worse than H&M)
- Semaphor 5y agoWorse than H&M? Wow.
- bobthepanda 5y agoAt least in the States, I can wear an H&M shirt fairly reasonably for a year or two without significant damage. I bought a F21 shirt exactly once and on the third wash there were numerous holes in it.
- alisonkisk 5y agoWomen's fashion also uses a small fraction of the fabric in men's fashion.
- qmmmur 5y agoA single item of clothing lasting a year is not a good outcome.
- Semaphor 5y agoYes, which is why I assumed that is what fast fashion meant.
- alisonkisk 5y agoIt depends on how many wearings and how much material is in it.
- kuschku 5y agoThe pure cotton clothes I bought on shein have the same quality I'd expect from H&M or C&A. They're well sewn and came with replacement buttons for resewing as well. So your comment seems to be quite the hyperbole.
- colinmhayes 5y agoH&M clothes are meant to be worn once and then tossed.
- moonchrome 5y agoIf he was using a phone/laptop that costs 100$ and gets thrown away every 3 months I could see your point otherwise I don't get it. His waste comment is compared to a baseline of something more durable.
- lmm 5y ago> How does all of that waste compare to all of the waste involved in making your comment? Not just the infra required to host it and distribute it, but the devices required for you to make it. Extremely poorly? Computers, especially servers and the kind of clients that HN users tend to favour, are built to be robust and last years if not decades; many HN folk are proud of how long theirs last. The kind of computer that gets thrown away quickly is the fashion-driven kind, and that's not a coincidence.