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This debate is basically just "I learned C first" vs "I learned a higher level language first."

konart 5y ago
My learning path was Logo->Basic->Pascal\Delphi->PHP->Python->Ruby and then Go. With some of js here and there. I don't really think it has much to do with you language path but rather with the field you are working most of the time. People who are building Rails startups for sale will have opinion different from people who build some sort of integration systems.
silisili 5y ago
Disagree. I used Python heavily before Go, and Go is much, much easier to read. I've never seen Go code in any codebase I couldn't immediately follow. I can't say the same about Python, and that's supposedly an easier HLL. Then again, I learned BASIC first technically, so my brain probably isn't quite right :).
- hiptobecubic 5y ago
  Neither Go nor Python are languages that encourage composing functionality out of higher order functions, so I think the point stands.
pjmlp 5y ago
C is high level, many just think it isn't. DDJ had quite a few articles on how to do Lisp-in-C kind of thing.
- laumars 5y ago
  You’re a bit quick to comment there because the GP said “highER”. ie another language that is a highER level than C. So technically their post is correct
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    C provides the tooling to implement many of the necessary abstractions as libraries, hence why I pointed to the DDJ articles. You can even plug a conservative GC for the full Lisp like experience.
    - laumars 5y ago
      Are you actually reading peoples comments before replying? You’re posting these completely irrelevant tangents as if it’s a contradiction to earlier posts (it isn’t) and in a tone that suggests you’re the only person who knows C (you’re not).
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Whatever.
hsn915 5y ago
I learned C first but then I rode the functional bandwagon (and dynamic languages) and spent many many years in Python and Javascript. I thought map/filter was much better than imperative for a long time. I rediscovered imperative programming later and found it to be such a breath of fresh air.

My learning path was Logo->Basic->Pascal\Delphi->PHP->Python->Ruby and then Go. With some of js here and there. I don't really think it has much to do with you language path but rather with the field you are working most of the time. People who are building Rails startups for sale will have opinion different from people who build some sort of integration systems.

silisili 5y ago

Disagree. I used Python heavily before Go, and Go is much, much easier to read. I've never seen Go code in any codebase I couldn't immediately follow. I can't say the same about Python, and that's supposedly an easier HLL. Then again, I learned BASIC first technically, so my brain probably isn't quite right :).

hiptobecubic 5y ago
Neither Go nor Python are languages that encourage composing functionality out of higher order functions, so I think the point stands.

pjmlp 5y ago

C is high level, many just think it isn't. DDJ had quite a few articles on how to do Lisp-in-C kind of thing.

laumars 5y ago
You’re a bit quick to comment there because the GP said “highER”. ie another language that is a highER level than C. So technically their post is correct
- pjmlp 5y ago
  C provides the tooling to implement many of the necessary abstractions as libraries, hence why I pointed to the DDJ articles. You can even plug a conservative GC for the full Lisp like experience.
  - laumars 5y ago
    Are you actually reading peoples comments before replying? You’re posting these completely irrelevant tangents as if it’s a contradiction to earlier posts (it isn’t) and in a tone that suggests you’re the only person who knows C (you’re not).
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Whatever.

hsn915 5y ago

I learned C first but then I rode the functional bandwagon (and dynamic languages) and spent many many years in Python and Javascript. I thought map/filter was much better than imperative for a long time. I rediscovered imperative programming later and found it to be such a breath of fresh air.