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Sometimes I wish there were a more modern replacement for Graphviz. There are things that it doesn't handle very well (e.g., nested subgraphs) and I feel like t

Sometimes I wish there were a more modern replacement for Graphviz. There are things that it doesn't handle very well (e.g., nested subgraphs) and I feel like there are good (albeit proprietary) algorithms which could make their way into a general package.

monkeycantype 5y ago
I use dot, and manually position everything, then use the neato -n2 option to render: `dot -T ${format} -n${n} ${verbose>1?"-v ":""}-Goverlap-true -Gsplines=false -Kneato -o "${ output }" "${ input }"` this still doesn't do subgraphs well, so I sometime do the 'groups' in a separate document, then composite the layers with image magick `magick composite ${verbose>1?"-verbose ":""}-gravity NorthWest "${a}" "${b}" "${png_output}"`;
- alhirzel 5y ago
  Cool, I appreciate you sharing the info on your process!
  - monkeycantype 5y ago
    You’re welcome
jeffreygoesto 5y ago
Not as easy to use, because it does not have a simple cli, but nested layouts are better than dot's with the Eclipse Layout Kernel. There is a JavaScript version, as well and you can try it in recent plantuml versions. [0] https://www.eclipse.org/elk https://www.eclipse.org/elk [1] https://github.com/eclipse/elk https://github.com/eclipse/elk [2] https://plantuml.com/elk https://plantuml.com/elk
graphviz 5y ago
Agree.
- graphviz 5y ago
  Also, this is a great problem, and we tried to solve it in a more general context. http://dpd.cs.princeton.edu/Papers/DGKN97.pdf http://dpd.cs.princeton.edu/Papers/DGKN97.pdf I believe it's an open problem what makes a curve look "natural" or how to do a good job of routing multiple splines around obstacles so they do not intersect each other, though the work of Keean Crane at CMU seems promising: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kmcrane/Projects/RepulsiveCurves/index.html https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kmcrane/Projects/RepulsiveCurves/ind...

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Sometimes I wish there were a more modern replacement for Graphviz. There are things that it doesn't handle very well (e.g., nested subgraphs) and I feel like t

by alhirzel 5y ago

monkeycantype 5y ago
I use dot, and manually position everything, then use the neato -n2 option to render: `dot -T ${format} -n${n} ${verbose>1?"-v ":""}-Goverlap-true -Gsplines=false -Kneato -o "${ output }" "${ input }"` this still doesn't do subgraphs well, so I sometime do the 'groups' in a separate document, then composite the layers with image magick `magick composite ${verbose>1?"-verbose ":""}-gravity NorthWest "${a}" "${b}" "${png_output}"`;
- alhirzel 5y ago
  Cool, I appreciate you sharing the info on your process!
  - monkeycantype 5y ago
    You’re welcome
jeffreygoesto 5y ago
Not as easy to use, because it does not have a simple cli, but nested layouts are better than dot's with the Eclipse Layout Kernel. There is a JavaScript version, as well and you can try it in recent plantuml versions. [0] https://www.eclipse.org/elk https://www.eclipse.org/elk [1] https://github.com/eclipse/elk https://github.com/eclipse/elk [2] https://plantuml.com/elk https://plantuml.com/elk
graphviz 5y ago
Agree.
- graphviz 5y ago
  Also, this is a great problem, and we tried to solve it in a more general context. http://dpd.cs.princeton.edu/Papers/DGKN97.pdf http://dpd.cs.princeton.edu/Papers/DGKN97.pdf I believe it's an open problem what makes a curve look "natural" or how to do a good job of routing multiple splines around obstacles so they do not intersect each other, though the work of Keean Crane at CMU seems promising: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kmcrane/Projects/RepulsiveCurves/index.html https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kmcrane/Projects/RepulsiveCurves/ind...