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As a suburbanite I always look on in horrid fascination when this topic comes up on HN. If I wanted to live in the city I would. I don’t want to bring these “u
by nsxwolf 5y ago
As a suburbanite I always look on in horrid fascination when this topic comes up on HN.
If I wanted to live in the city I would. I don’t want to bring these “urban values” to my neighborhood. I want to put all my groceries in the trunk of my minivan, not make 10 bike rides back and forth. I’m in my mid 40s and my knees can’t handle that.
I don’t want to step over puddles of vomit and hypodermic needles. I like my functioning police department. I have no interest in the way you live.
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- arrakis2021 5y agoThis. Many People in urban centers don’t understand any of this.
- throw0101a 5y ago> Many People in urban centers don’t understand any of this. Many people in urban centers read impressions like this and think the person that holds/writes them is describing something from another planet.
- menomatter 5y agoA large number of people in urban center are coming from suburban places. So I think they know the drill.
- a_shovel 5y agoWhy would you make ten bike trips back and forth to the grocery store that you pass every day on your way home from work?
- anthonygd 5y agoIs this something you have any firsthand experience with?
- caskstrength 5y agoNot OP, but I do! (mid thirties and have never owned a car) AMA
- sofixa 5y agoNot OP, but i shop every few days, in one of the stores that's less than 10 minutes away by foot, and i carry everything with my hands. Before the pandemic and full remote working, i just stopped by on my way home from work.
- throw0101a 5y ago> I don’t want to step over puddles of vomit and hypodermic needles. I live in a city and do not deal with any of these things. Have you considered your impression of "urban values" may not match reality? > I like my functioning police department. I have no interest in the way you live. The police in the suburbs may be less 'functioning' than in urban areas: * https://www.axios.com/report-suburbs-arrest-rates-surpass-urban-cities-ecd17717-9032-4dad-9426-3290a0a86016.html https://www.axios.com/report-suburbs-arrest-rates-surpass-ur...
- nsxwolf 5y agoI used to live in Seattle. I was recently in San Francisco. Please do not gaslight me. I have firsthand experience with vomit, hypodermic needles and assault in urban areas.
- spicyusername 5y agoI think this article is just suggesting that if many people are going to continue to live in a suburban environment, we could do a better job of making those environments more interesting than a pile of pedestrian unfriendly arterial roads and ten different kinds of Applebee's. There is nothing fundamentally incompatible about picking up your groceries with a minivan and later biking to a coffee shop or a local park. Local governments just don't seem to make the ability for people to do so a priority when developing their municipality.
- sofixa 5y ago> I have no interest in the way you live Then you shouldn't mind if other people chose to live differently ( without any of the ridiculously exaggerated downsides you mention). But the problem is that due to zoning laws, buildings densely or anything else other than sparse suburbia is just impossible in the US. People like you shouldn't force everyone else to live in a thoroughly unsustainable manner, subsidised by everyone else.