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Tirana Prosecution to Investigate Alleged Data Leak of More than 630k Albanians
- ardit33 5y agoDoes anybody have a link of the data? *For research purposes of course...
- EGreg 5y agoReminds me of “No Way To Prevent This”, Says Only Industry Where This Regularly Happens: https://qbix.com/blog/2021/01/25/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-industry-where-this-regularly-happens/ https://qbix.com/blog/2021/01/25/no-way-to-prevent-this-says...
- pc86 5y agoAs if zero-content posting of the Onion links wasn't bad enough, we're going to start posting links to two-bit blogs that rip these places off now too?
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- mdp2021 5y agoI am not sure what you wanted to point out, pc86, there: I checked the linked page and it seems to be a blog post which is informative about this general topic, rhetorically satirizing through The Onion's "No Way To Prevent This" format: it describes and links to -- https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/brazils-health-ministrys-website-data-leak-exposed-243-million-medical-records-for-more-than-6-months/ https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/brazils-health-mi... -- https://www.zdnet.com/article/personal-data-of-16-million-brazilian-covid-19-patients-exposed-online/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/personal-data-of-16-million-br... -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_data_breaches#Late_2014_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_data_breaches#Late_2014... -- https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/virtualization-and-cloud/data-on-123-million-us-households-exposed-due-to-misconfigured-aws-s3-bucket https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/virtualiza... -- https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-vast-breach-likud-campaign-leaks-id-phones-addresses-of-all-israeli-adults/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-vast-breach-likud-campaign-... -- https://www.csoonline.com/article/2130877/the-biggest-data-breaches-of-the-21st-century.html https://www.csoonline.com/article/2130877/the-biggest-data-b... -- https://kinsta.com/wordpress-market-share/#:~:text=WordPress'%20market%20share%20is%2039,one%2Dthird%20of%20the%20web https://kinsta.com/wordpress-market-share/#:~:text=WordPress...! ... ...And it is also informative about Qbix, which many may not know: > Why do we all have to rely on giant corporations mediate our interactions, and trust them with our data, identity and brand? Qbix works to put power back in the hands of the people https://qbix.com/people https://qbix.com/people
- EGreg 5y agoSomehow I don’t expect him to reply
- vmception 5y agobig oof for all the albanians that scammed people before, about to be some resolutions to unresolved quarrels, just like in the breakup.
- bmarquez 5y ago> The data provided included their ID number, name, father’s name I am curious about the "father's name" part. Is it a security thing in Albania, kind of how "mother's maiden name" used to be a security question for my credit card in the US?
- guerrilla 5y ago"In Albania a complete name usually consists of a given name (Albanian: emri); the given name of the individual's father (Albanian: atësia), which is seldom included except in official documents; and a (most commonly patrilineal) family name or surname (Albanian: mbiemri)."
- vukgr 5y agoNot 100% sure its the same in Albania, but in Serbia it's the de facto middle name for most people. So you need it on most documents. Mother's name also works, but most people still default to the father's name.
- smoe 5y agoSeems like a cultural thing where the father's name is part of your own name in official documents. "a complete name usually consists of a given name; the given name of the individual's father, which is seldom included except in official documents; and a family name" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_name
- alchemism 5y agoThis is also true in Greece - it originates from either Balkan or Orthodox culture I figure.
- MobiusHorizons 5y agoIt’s called a patronymic, and is also part of the legal name in At least Ukraine and Russia . Interestingly in those countries the last name is something which only really shows up in official documents, instead the patronymic is used in much the same way as a last name is in English. For instance the Russian equivalent of John Doe is Ivan Ivanovich which just means Ivan son of Ivan.
- userbinator 5y agoI don't think "all" is appropriate in the title; a quick search confirms that Albania has far more than 600k citizens.
- xeromal 5y agoyeah lol, I was surprised the entire country of Albania fit on a single spreadsheet.
- teloli 5y agoTrue, the total population is 2.8M though so this is a very significant chunk of the whole country.
- dang 5y agoThe title should not have been rewritten in the first place. (Submitted title was "Data leak of all Albanians 600k+ profiles"). "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- waffle_maniac 5y agoCan you send a file that big on Whatsapp?
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- elevenoh 5y agoLovely. How long until gov't covid passport apps leak
- adolph 5y agoWouldn’t it make sense for that to be public information from the getgo?
- toolz 5y agoNot at all - imagine you have very specific medical reasons you can't take the vaccine. Do you want the world knowing you're unvaccinated in this political climate? Do you want to explain your condition to anyone who might be judging you for your lack of vaccination status? There's a reason our medical records are private.
- dinvlad 5y agoTbh I think we have an opposite problem right now - too few folks getting vaccinated and even somewhat ashamedly asking others to. I wish we were in a situation where unvaccinated folks were considered "black sheep", but unfortunately we're still far from it.
- adolph 5y agoI’m confused about this. Isn’t the possession of a Covid passport a public declaration regarding part of one’s medical record? Let’s say your friends go out to do covid passport things and you always decline—they are going to know you are unvaccinated eventually and not invite you to New Years.
- spicybright 5y agoI have no idea how it works, but, the app could just report if someone is vaccinated, or cleared by a doctor that they medially can't have the vaccine, without specifying which one.
- toolz 5y ago
- authed 5y ago> The data provided included their ID number, name, father’s name, surname, date of birth, voting center, place of birth, residence code, list number, phone number, birthplace, employer, and whether they are likely to vote for the Socialist Party. all of that should be public and not be used for "secret" questions
- rekoros 5y agoAside: Albanian is an amazing language
- akyoan 5y agoI’m curious, why?
- rekoros 5y agoMainly because it is not closely related to any other Indo-European language - not an easy feat.
- thaumasiotes 5y agoHow are we counting? Greek forms its own branch of Indo-European, notable for how easy it is to distinguish from other Indo-European languages. Being different from "other similar languages" mostly just means a history involving more being conquered than conquering.
- rekoros 5y agoI'm not a linguist, so I don't really know. But, even middle-of-Europe Hungarian is related - somewhat - to Khanty and Mansi, and to a lesser extent to Finnish. I just think it's kind of incredible when a language exists in the center of Europe in 2021 that isn't quite related to anything. Armenian and Greek qualify as well, but they're much more prominent than Albanian - so, less mysterious :-)
- mdp2021 5y ago> it's kind of incredible when a language exists in the center of Europe ... that isn't quite related to anything Presumably, one factor is being "prisoners of Geography" (expression of Tim Marshall). See the map https://decolonialatlas.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/raised-relief-southern-europe-day.jpg?w=1024 https://decolonialatlas.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/raised-r... from Anton Balazh ( https://www.shutterstock.com/g/antartis?irgwc=1&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Skimbit%20Ltd.&utm_source=10078&utm_term= https://www.shutterstock.com/g/antartis?irgwc=1&utm_medium=A... ), ...Hungary is in a way a protected "Inner Carpathia". Also quite visible on OpenTopoMap, https://opentopomap.org/#map=6/46.800/19.116 https://opentopomap.org/#map=6/46.800/19.116
- rStar 5y ago
- f3rnando 5y agoIn 2011, I blogged this: https://web.archive.org/web/20130501172236/http://www.fernando.com.ar/2011/afip-filtra-informacion-privada/ https://web.archive.org/web/20130501172236/http://www.fernan... I found the "leak" with a right click in my own data (images), then I changed the params in the URL without being logged in and it worked. Fingerprints, Scanned ID cards, Photos, and Signature, of millions of Argentine citizens. When I changed the ID in the URL, I used the ID (found in public sources) from a guy named like me. When I saw his face, ID card, fingerprint, and signature my jaw dropped. Years later AFIP took over the control on .ar TLDs (NIC.ar) and for strange reasons I could not renew my domain. :) Ten years ago. Its all leaked. Or at least we should asume so.
- anaganisk 5y agoJust yesterday in the discussion of Internet Archive, a user made this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29639814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29639814 I truly wonder if Internet archive crawls this and recuses to delete it, whats the implication. Since its public now.
- thaumasiotes 5y agoA large number of people mistakenly upload identity documents to AirBnB. They aren't hard to find. I assume those people were trying to provide the documents for account validation, but they end up making them public.
- silexia 5y agoFor a free market to be efficient, all price information should be public, including the price of wages. Public price information would greatly benefit workers.
- ermir 5y agoThis is not a mere leak from some government office, but also includes a lot of "notes" by local Socialist Party staff that are assigned to "watch over" a small section of their local population, such as an apartment block or similar. The database contains details such as did this person vote for the Socialist Party, what kind of leverage do they have on him (govt jobs, business licenses, jobs of parents or kids), are they part of the diaspora, do they have foreign income, etc. There was a huge scandal about it a year or two ago, called the "patronazhist" scandal. You can read more here: https://balkaninsight.com/2021/04/16/albania-prosecutors-investigate-over-socialist-party-big-brother/ https://balkaninsight.com/2021/04/16/albania-prosecutors-inv... The big issue is how the Socialist Party essentially organized the whole collection of this data neighborhood by neighborhood in a hierarchical fashion, it's very similar to a mafia franchise. A neighborhood party member reports to the larger district, who reports to the city official, who reports higher up all the way to the Prime Minister.
- xhevahir 5y agoYeah, some things about this remind me of the pyramid-scheme fiasco that caused so much chaos in Albania back in the nineties.
- dang 5y agoAlbanian prosecutors probe huge suspected leak of personal data - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29651773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29651773 - Dec 2021 (115 comments)