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> The things that were about flattening the curve were about avoiding acute health system overload and increased mortality that would result from that So we ag

> The things that were about flattening the curve were about avoiding acute health system overload and increased mortality that would result from that So we agree it is about healthcare capacity. You know the best way to avoid healthcare collapse? Build more of it! You know the unethical, immoral way of avoiding healthcare collapse? Force hundreds of millions of people into this purgatory we are living in right now while doing absolutely fuck-all to build capacity. Then blame them all for "not taking this seriously" when their brilliant plan of doing fuck-all fails. Seriously. Do you not see how much bullshit it is to just expect the entire world, billions of people to put their lives on hold indefinitely for exactly one specific illness when the solution could be to simply build capacity to deal with covid surges? These governments did fuck all to solve the capacity problem. They dont respect any of us at all!! They pissed our lives away so they didn't have to do anything. Do you not value your time on this earth at all? 'Cause if you do, I'm sorry to tell you but the government just hoodwinked you into thinking it was your job to sacrifice your life so they didn't have to do anything at all. Life is short dude. Expecting everybody to do this because "original models" by some bullshit "expert" said so... bleech...

davidw 5y ago
> You know the best way to avoid healthcare collapse? Build more of it! No, the best way is to not need it in the first place. Vaccinating people is vasty more efficient in terms of people's time and money.
- xigoi 5y ago
  Who said anything about vaccination? You can have vaccination without lockdowns.
  - davidw 5y ago
    This whole conversation is about the notion that we should have massively expanded hospital capacity, which is an extremely expensive endeavour, and probably not feasible because of the lack of trained people. Universal vaccination uptake would obviate that.

davidw 5y ago

> You know the best way to avoid healthcare collapse? Build more of it! No, the best way is to not need it in the first place. Vaccinating people is vasty more efficient in terms of people's time and money.

xigoi 5y ago
Who said anything about vaccination? You can have vaccination without lockdowns.
- davidw 5y ago
  This whole conversation is about the notion that we should have massively expanded hospital capacity, which is an extremely expensive endeavour, and probably not feasible because of the lack of trained people. Universal vaccination uptake would obviate that.