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How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

by Khaine 5y ago

thirtyseven 5y ago
Because this is in Canada, where they aren't bound by US Supreme Court decisions? Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case.
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  Is a gay black trans-woman part of a protected class?
- throw_m239339 5y ago
  > Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case. A disabled "straight white cis-male" isn't a protected class in USA? Stop being racist. We live in crazy times where some form of casual racism is acceptable, because the people who are racist claim they are "anti-racists". You can't be anti-racist if you say racist things, no matter what race is the target.
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  The first line of the Canadian Human Right Act is: For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, genetic characteristics, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered. (Emphasis mine) Straight, white, cis-male seems to fall under a lot of protected classes.
- yucky 5y ago
  >I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case FYI, in the case of protected classes, it covers all people. For instance, if race is a protected class, that doesn't apply to some races, it applies to race in general. In other words, you can't discriminate based on race, regardless of the race being discriminated against. That's how it works in the US, and I know this is Canada but your comment seemed to imply protected class was something else "in any case".
humanistbot 5y ago
The position is for a job posting for a public university in Canada. The laws are very different than in the U.S. The Employment Equity Acts of 1986 and 1995 actually require these kinds of recruitments. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_equity_(Canada) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_equity_(Canada)
tomp 5y ago
Edit: APPARENTLY NOT, SEE COMMENTS BELOW, VIDEO IS MISLEADINGLY CUT! Canadian government doesn't care about the legality of breaking human rights. Here is Trudeau saying: > "Regardless of the fact that we are attacking your fundamental rights or limiting your fundamental rights the charter says that is wrong, we’re still gonna go ahead and do it." https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1473254056550449160 https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1473254056550449160
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  That's...wildly out of context. Trudeau is criticizing the existence of the notwithstanding clause and it's invocation by the Quebec government to the effect that clip has him describing, not endorsing that behavior. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/justin-trudeau-shares-father-s-dislike-of-clause-allowing-override-of-charter-rights-1.5711902 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/justin-trudeau-shares-father-s-d...
  - tomp 5y ago
    Interesting, I didn't realize that. Thanks. When first watching this, it was very believable, exactly because of Canada's recent behaviour regarding discrimination and lockdowns.
- unethical_ban 5y ago
  The way in which that video is clipped and the idea that you could listen to that and think he is saying those as a real statement and not as a scenario, are both scary to me. This is disinformation.

How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

by Khaine 5y ago

How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

Because this is in Canada, where they aren't bound by US Supreme Court decisions? Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case.

oh_sigh 5y ago
Is a gay black trans-woman part of a protected class?
throw_m239339 5y ago
> Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case. A disabled "straight white cis-male" isn't a protected class in USA? Stop being racist. We live in crazy times where some form of casual racism is acceptable, because the people who are racist claim they are "anti-racists". You can't be anti-racist if you say racist things, no matter what race is the target.
xboxnolifes 5y ago
The first line of the Canadian Human Right Act is: For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, genetic characteristics, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered. (Emphasis mine) Straight, white, cis-male seems to fall under a lot of protected classes.
yucky 5y ago
>I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case FYI, in the case of protected classes, it covers all people. For instance, if race is a protected class, that doesn't apply to some races, it applies to race in general. In other words, you can't discriminate based on race, regardless of the race being discriminated against. That's how it works in the US, and I know this is Canada but your comment seemed to imply protected class was something else "in any case".

humanistbot 5y ago

The position is for a job posting for a public university in Canada. The laws are very different than in the U.S. The Employment Equity Acts of 1986 and 1995 actually require these kinds of recruitments. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_equity_(Canada) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_equity_(Canada)

tomp 5y ago

Edit: APPARENTLY NOT, SEE COMMENTS BELOW, VIDEO IS MISLEADINGLY CUT! Canadian government doesn't care about the legality of breaking human rights. Here is Trudeau saying: > "Regardless of the fact that we are attacking your fundamental rights or limiting your fundamental rights the charter says that is wrong, we’re still gonna go ahead and do it." https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1473254056550449160 https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1473254056550449160

dragonwriter 5y ago
That's...wildly out of context. Trudeau is criticizing the existence of the notwithstanding clause and it's invocation by the Quebec government to the effect that clip has him describing, not endorsing that behavior. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/justin-trudeau-shares-father-s-dislike-of-clause-allowing-override-of-charter-rights-1.5711902 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/justin-trudeau-shares-father-s-d...
- tomp 5y ago
  Interesting, I didn't realize that. Thanks. When first watching this, it was very believable, exactly because of Canada's recent behaviour regarding discrimination and lockdowns.
unethical_ban 5y ago
The way in which that video is clipped and the idea that you could listen to that and think he is saying those as a real statement and not as a scenario, are both scary to me. This is disinformation.