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I think the key here is that some tasks are very clearly localized, such as speech in Broca and Wernicke. But others are not as localized. And functional areas

I think the key here is that some tasks are very clearly localized, such as speech in Broca and Wernicke. But others are not as localized. And functional areas might even move during phases of plasticity (i.e. being born blind). So it seems very clear that some functionally distinct regions exist, but researchers still struggle to pinpoint very abstract things like memory, personality, and complex behavior.

TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
Can we be sure what "localised" means in this context? If you destroy an area and some people lose one particular function, while other people only lose small fragments of the function - which seems to be true of Broca's region - can the function really be said to be localised?
- uniqueuid 5y ago
  That's a good question, I'd need to ask a neurologist friend of mine. IIRC there are some areas that are localized almost in the sense of a circuit. Hearing is an example, which needs to process sensory information much faster (and more direct) than ordinary pathways would, in order to be able to construct spatial representation from latency differences.
  - porkbrain 5y ago
    I suppose "more direct" can be interpreted differently, but to the best of my knowledge the signal from your cochlea takes more axonal jumps[0] than e.g. visual, which jumps "only" through LGM[1]. Even more direct is the olfactory pathway which skips the thalamus altogether[2]. However, in the context of the article you might be referring only to intertelencephalic processing, in which case I'd love to read a paper which compares the directness of hearing vs other modalities. [0]: https://teachmeanatomy.info/neuroanatomy/pathways/auditory-pathway https://teachmeanatomy.info/neuroanatomy/pathways/auditory-p... [1]: https://www.ophthalmologyreview.org/articles/the-afferent-visual-pathway https://www.ophthalmologyreview.org/articles/the-afferent-vi... [2]: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncir.2015.00049/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncir.2015.0004...
    - uniqueuid 5y ago
      Hi @porkbrain, it's going to take a few days but I'll ask and come back with such an article if my friend (whose specialty is auditory processing and sensor fusion) can recommend one.
- mmmrtl 5y ago
  And even if Broca's region is necessary for speech, that does not mean it is sufficient. You wouldn't assume an electronic circuit is localized to one resistor just because it breaks when that resistor is removed.

TheOtherHobbes 5y ago

Can we be sure what "localised" means in this context? If you destroy an area and some people lose one particular function, while other people only lose small fragments of the function - which seems to be true of Broca's region - can the function really be said to be localised?

uniqueuid 5y ago
That's a good question, I'd need to ask a neurologist friend of mine. IIRC there are some areas that are localized almost in the sense of a circuit. Hearing is an example, which needs to process sensory information much faster (and more direct) than ordinary pathways would, in order to be able to construct spatial representation from latency differences.
- porkbrain 5y ago
  I suppose "more direct" can be interpreted differently, but to the best of my knowledge the signal from your cochlea takes more axonal jumps[0] than e.g. visual, which jumps "only" through LGM[1]. Even more direct is the olfactory pathway which skips the thalamus altogether[2]. However, in the context of the article you might be referring only to intertelencephalic processing, in which case I'd love to read a paper which compares the directness of hearing vs other modalities. [0]: https://teachmeanatomy.info/neuroanatomy/pathways/auditory-pathway https://teachmeanatomy.info/neuroanatomy/pathways/auditory-p... [1]: https://www.ophthalmologyreview.org/articles/the-afferent-visual-pathway https://www.ophthalmologyreview.org/articles/the-afferent-vi... [2]: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncir.2015.00049/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncir.2015.0004...
  - uniqueuid 5y ago
    Hi @porkbrain, it's going to take a few days but I'll ask and come back with such an article if my friend (whose specialty is auditory processing and sensor fusion) can recommend one.
mmmrtl 5y ago
And even if Broca's region is necessary for speech, that does not mean it is sufficient. You wouldn't assume an electronic circuit is localized to one resistor just because it breaks when that resistor is removed.