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When we were doing our virtual learning – we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work. One of them was googling ‘Tran

When we were doing our virtual learning – we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work. One of them was googling ‘Trans Day of Visibility.’ And we’re like, ‘Check.’ We’re going to invite that kid when we get back on campus. Whenever they follow the Google Doodle links or whatever, right, we make note of those kids and the things that they bring up with each other in chats or email or whatever,” Are the kids or their parents aware that their searches, e-mails, and chats are being monitored this way? And how exactly does this surveillance work? Are their teachers the only ones that get this data, or is there a private company the schools are partnered with that also hoovers up everything? This gross violation of privacy is the bigger story, in my opinion.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
Marion Township in Pennsylvania had to pay out the nose a few years ago because of staff spying on children at home via webcams in school issued laptops. Why are teachers being allowed to spy on students at home? I can understand having remote access to view a laptop during school hours within programs used for school. But to have unfettered access to their search history? Or unfettered access to dial in and observe whenever they feel? > we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work. The perverts at Marion School district had similar attitudes and look where that got them.
lern_too_spel 5y ago
Yes, the kids and parents are aware that the teachers are watching them during virtual school hours. Kids who were watching YouTube or playing games in class were reprimanded on the spot.
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  From the quote: "we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work." Emphasis on "when they weren’t doing school work"
  - lern_too_spel 5y ago
    When they weren't doing school work during school hours, like watching YouTube and playing games. Here is an example document sent to parents explaining how this works. https://www.pointschools.net/cms/lib/WI01932907/Centricity/Domain/4/Securly%20Parent%20Letter%20Template.pdf https://www.pointschools.net/cms/lib/WI01932907/Centricity/D...
    - jevoten 5y ago
      Monitoring student-to-student chat and e-mail, even during school hours*, is several steps too far, in my opinion. Like placing microphones at every desk. Such measures may be justifiable only during tests. *Do e-mails or chat messages sent outside school hours, or during recess, remain private?
      - lern_too_spel 5y ago
        Students speaking to each other or texting each other in class would be reprimanded. This really is no different from before except that they can more easily get away with it by using another device to communicate. The students are fully aware that their school device is monitored during class.
        jevoten 5y ago
        I don't take issue with reprimands. I take issue with their conversations being recorded. Which absolutely is different than before, when whispering to a classmate, even during class, would remain reasonably private. Unless a microphone was installed at every desk. > their school device is monitored during class. So messages sent during recess, or after hours, are not recorded? Even if part of a chat conversation or e-mail chain where some messages were sent during class? Or is the entire device monitored, meaning if they view during class a chat conversation that took place after-school, the entire conversation is recorded? Or even if they don't view it during class? You said the device is monitored, so would that include all the chat logs and e-mails stored on it? Chats and e-mails that would leave students socially hermits if they ignored out of a desire for privacy. The example document you linked only mentions screen-recording, that the student is alerted to when it's activated. Are you sure that's the full extent of their spying capabilities, or that it's the same service these teachers were discussing? It does not seem to enable the kind of self-professed "stalking" these teachers described.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago

Marion Township in Pennsylvania had to pay out the nose a few years ago because of staff spying on children at home via webcams in school issued laptops. Why are teachers being allowed to spy on students at home? I can understand having remote access to view a laptop during school hours within programs used for school. But to have unfettered access to their search history? Or unfettered access to dial in and observe whenever they feel? > we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work. The perverts at Marion School district had similar attitudes and look where that got them.

lern_too_spel 5y ago

Yes, the kids and parents are aware that the teachers are watching them during virtual school hours. Kids who were watching YouTube or playing games in class were reprimanded on the spot.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
From the quote: "we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work." Emphasis on "when they weren’t doing school work"
- lern_too_spel 5y ago
  When they weren't doing school work during school hours, like watching YouTube and playing games. Here is an example document sent to parents explaining how this works. https://www.pointschools.net/cms/lib/WI01932907/Centricity/Domain/4/Securly%20Parent%20Letter%20Template.pdf https://www.pointschools.net/cms/lib/WI01932907/Centricity/D...
  - jevoten 5y ago
    Monitoring student-to-student chat and e-mail, even during school hours*, is several steps too far, in my opinion. Like placing microphones at every desk. Such measures may be justifiable only during tests. *Do e-mails or chat messages sent outside school hours, or during recess, remain private?
    - lern_too_spel 5y ago
      Students speaking to each other or texting each other in class would be reprimanded. This really is no different from before except that they can more easily get away with it by using another device to communicate. The students are fully aware that their school device is monitored during class.
      - jevoten 5y ago
        I don't take issue with reprimands. I take issue with their conversations being recorded. Which absolutely is different than before, when whispering to a classmate, even during class, would remain reasonably private. Unless a microphone was installed at every desk. > their school device is monitored during class. So messages sent during recess, or after hours, are not recorded? Even if part of a chat conversation or e-mail chain where some messages were sent during class? Or is the entire device monitored, meaning if they view during class a chat conversation that took place after-school, the entire conversation is recorded? Or even if they don't view it during class? You said the device is monitored, so would that include all the chat logs and e-mails stored on it? Chats and e-mails that would leave students socially hermits if they ignored out of a desire for privacy. The example document you linked only mentions screen-recording, that the student is alerted to when it's activated. Are you sure that's the full extent of their spying capabilities, or that it's the same service these teachers were discussing? It does not seem to enable the kind of self-professed "stalking" these teachers described.