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"If people already know something, there's no point in posting it." I think you expect something else from HN or this discussion than I do. I think it can be h
by Tichy 15y ago
"If people already know something, there's no point in posting it."
I think you expect something else from HN or this discussion than I do. I think it can be helpful to remind other people of facts in a discussion, lest they get carried away. Not every human exchange has to consist of novelties.
If I do maths, I might remind myself that 2+2=4. I have known it before, but chose to recall that knowledge at opportune moments. In discussions, other people can help with the recalling, it does not imply that the other parties were ignorant before. It is just about adding another perspective.
"I have nothing to go on, other than what you write"
In such situation I tend to resort to common sense. Does it seem plausible ("have merit") what the other person is saying? If yes, I might remember it as an interesting thought (not as established fact), or if it seems useful if true, might take further steps (Google) to verify it.
It's not that hard, and you don't have to insult the discussion partner.
Here is another idea: "That sounds interesting, do you by chance remember the source for that?" See the difference? But hey, it is the internet, there is no human on the other end.
- robertskmiles 15y agoYour argument against rudely asking for citations is perfectly reasonable. Personally, I don't find "[citation needed]" to be particularly rude, but of course tone is difficult to convey in text, especially with a neologism developed in written rather than spoken conversation. So, if you feel that the particular phrasing is rude, your opinion is as valid as mine. I don't know how it was intended when it was written, and neither do you really, so there's nothing more to be said about that. However, what I have been arguing against are your arguments against providing citations, and your arguments against asking for citations, with both of which I take issue. Asking for citations rudely is wrong, but asking for citations in general is reasonable, and providing citations generally is a good idea.