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It's slightly more, but this is why I have stuck with Dropbox. Their only business is storage and it means they are less likely to do things like this. They h

It's slightly more, but this is why I have stuck with Dropbox. Their only business is storage and it means they are less likely to do things like this. They have't been in the news, that I have seen, about actions like this. Google is a consumer hostile company at this point. Unless you have a friend with pull there, or make it a big enough news issue, the little things are treated with automated hostility. Google isn't alone here, it's the result of very large companies being under regulated on the consumer side.

jeffbee 5y ago
Dropbox has the exact same policies and procedures, they just don't have the same technical abilities that Google has. Quoting from their AUP: "...you must not even try to do any of the following ...: ... - publish, share, or store materials that constitute child sexually exploitative material (including material which may not be illegal child sexual abuse material but which nonetheless sexually exploits or promotes the sexual exploitation of minors), unlawful pornography, or are otherwise indecent; - publish, share, or store content that contains or promotes extreme acts of violence or terrorist activity, including terror propaganda; - advocate bigotry or hatred against any person or group of people based on their race, religion, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, or impairment; ... We reserve the right to take appropriate action in response to violations of this policy, which could include removing or disabling access to content, suspending a user’s access to the Services, or terminating an account." Quoting from their privacy FAQ: "Examples of Dropbox processing your data in furtherance of its legitimate interests in operating our Services and business include: ... - Investigating and preventing security issues and abuse of the Dropbox Services or Dropbox users."
- beached_whale 5y ago
  It's not the rules, those are common, it's the lack of human after. When the automation goes wrong, how much effort is it to get a human and to fix the issue. Or how many other services are taken down too. Google as an identity provider means that other third parties/devices are down in the mean time.
- beached_whale 5y ago
  The point is really, that these companies are so large that they should be much more regulated and treated like any utility. That means it is a legal proceeding when they want to drop customers. This many mean that people, gulp, pay for services, but they have chosen to intertwine themselves into too many places in the consumer landscape.
  - prepend 5y ago
    I wonder how much it used to suck when the power company wasn’t as regulated and would do stuff like “we detected illegal activity so we shut off your power.” I’d like some balance because I don’t want Google and Dropbox to suck as much as my power and phone company. But do want some regulation around lack of due process and “bundling” where a YouTube comment can result in my GCP account shut down.
sophacles 5y ago
I disagree. Google has always been a consumer hostile company. The only "at this point" thing is: they have become worse at hiding it.

jeffbee 5y ago

Dropbox has the exact same policies and procedures, they just don't have the same technical abilities that Google has. Quoting from their AUP: "...you must not even try to do any of the following ...: ... - publish, share, or store materials that constitute child sexually exploitative material (including material which may not be illegal child sexual abuse material but which nonetheless sexually exploits or promotes the sexual exploitation of minors), unlawful pornography, or are otherwise indecent; - publish, share, or store content that contains or promotes extreme acts of violence or terrorist activity, including terror propaganda; - advocate bigotry or hatred against any person or group of people based on their race, religion, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, or impairment; ... We reserve the right to take appropriate action in response to violations of this policy, which could include removing or disabling access to content, suspending a user’s access to the Services, or terminating an account." Quoting from their privacy FAQ: "Examples of Dropbox processing your data in furtherance of its legitimate interests in operating our Services and business include: ... - Investigating and preventing security issues and abuse of the Dropbox Services or Dropbox users."

beached_whale 5y ago
It's not the rules, those are common, it's the lack of human after. When the automation goes wrong, how much effort is it to get a human and to fix the issue. Or how many other services are taken down too. Google as an identity provider means that other third parties/devices are down in the mean time.
beached_whale 5y ago
The point is really, that these companies are so large that they should be much more regulated and treated like any utility. That means it is a legal proceeding when they want to drop customers. This many mean that people, gulp, pay for services, but they have chosen to intertwine themselves into too many places in the consumer landscape.
- prepend 5y ago
  I wonder how much it used to suck when the power company wasn’t as regulated and would do stuff like “we detected illegal activity so we shut off your power.” I’d like some balance because I don’t want Google and Dropbox to suck as much as my power and phone company. But do want some regulation around lack of due process and “bundling” where a YouTube comment can result in my GCP account shut down.

sophacles 5y ago

I disagree. Google has always been a consumer hostile company. The only "at this point" thing is: they have become worse at hiding it.