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How would a legit user make the request without inquiring what their policies are? Keep in mind the experiment wasn’t even making requests.

s1artibartfast 5y ago
They could send an identical email, but it would be coming from a legitimate user.
- endisneigh 5y ago
  The answers to the questions don’t depend on whether or not the user is legitimate or not. Not to mention cases where the user isn’t even sure of their account information or lost email, etc.
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    I agree the answer does not depend on the legitimacy, but that doesn't matter. The answer to where were you last Tuesday night does not depend on who asks it, but only some have the right to ask that question and demand an answer.
    - endisneigh 5y ago
      Your example isn’t relevant at all to the actual situation we are talking about. A more relevant example would be your right to go into a restaurant and see their food safety certificate.
      - s1artibartfast 5y ago
        I guess there in is the disagreement. Is the request more like one case or the other. It seems that most people feel the intent of the law is (or should be) to allow users to request information no, not any unrelated third-party
        endisneigh 5y ago
        Indeed, but the experiment wasn’t about requesting information, it was about requesting their policy around handling user data. Seems reasonable to me - for example you’re a prospective user and want to know how they handle requests, just in case you want to do it in the future after being a user.
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Which is itself a request for information. I think a request for policy information is reasonable if they they didn't make up false identities and claim to be users.
        endisneigh 5y ago
        I don’t understand why you think it matters lol. Must you be a paying patron of a restaurant to merely ask for a menu?
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Clearly there are some situations where requests which are reasonable and others which are not. This is not in dispute.

s1artibartfast 5y ago

They could send an identical email, but it would be coming from a legitimate user.

endisneigh 5y ago
The answers to the questions don’t depend on whether or not the user is legitimate or not. Not to mention cases where the user isn’t even sure of their account information or lost email, etc.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  I agree the answer does not depend on the legitimacy, but that doesn't matter. The answer to where were you last Tuesday night does not depend on who asks it, but only some have the right to ask that question and demand an answer.
  - endisneigh 5y ago
    Your example isn’t relevant at all to the actual situation we are talking about. A more relevant example would be your right to go into a restaurant and see their food safety certificate.
    - s1artibartfast 5y ago
      I guess there in is the disagreement. Is the request more like one case or the other. It seems that most people feel the intent of the law is (or should be) to allow users to request information no, not any unrelated third-party
      - endisneigh 5y ago
        Indeed, but the experiment wasn’t about requesting information, it was about requesting their policy around handling user data. Seems reasonable to me - for example you’re a prospective user and want to know how they handle requests, just in case you want to do it in the future after being a user.
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Which is itself a request for information. I think a request for policy information is reasonable if they they didn't make up false identities and claim to be users.
        endisneigh 5y ago
        I don’t understand why you think it matters lol. Must you be a paying patron of a restaurant to merely ask for a menu?
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Clearly there are some situations where requests which are reasonable and others which are not. This is not in dispute.