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Of course, that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out and perhaps, one of the many reasons they haven't done it.

rurp 5y ago
Sadly I expect that Google will "handle" those edge cases the same way they handle similar issues on Youtube: have a lot of false positives and tell users to pound sand, except for cases where the outrage goes viral.
jhgb 5y ago
> that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out How do you figure out legality of having a document from the document? Unless it's child porn, where it's implicit, this simply isn't computable.
- anshumankmr 5y ago
  Maintaining a hash of say music files that are owned by large record label companies or a conglomerate like VeVo, match every audio file uploaded with the hash and if it matches, flag it, get it reviewed and if it matches, delete it?
  - foxfluff 5y ago
    That does not answer legality.
    - anshumankmr 5y ago
      However, VeVo can say that no one can keep MP3 records if it isn't hosted on iTunes, YouTube Music or Spotify etc
      - jhgb 5y ago
        In my country that would be almost certainly illegal. Not even copyright holders can tell you what you can do with your personal copies of copyrighted works, short of distributing them to someone else. By law they're explicitly prevented from doing that.
        spc476 5y ago
        The cloud is "someone else".
        jhgb 5y ago
        Not necessarily for the purpose of our copyright act. Neither is your personal bank deposit box if you put a book in it. You're not transferring ownership of your belongings to the bank if you put something in it.
judge2020 5y ago
Assuming for video content they use their existing YouTube Content ID library, they can exclude/allow their Google accounts to have that content, or host it under the same user as their YT channel.
jevoten 5y ago
Is it an edge case? Thanks to copyright's assault on the public domain, almost everything is copyrighted. Is making a backup of your movies, music, and e-books unusual?
- andi999 5y ago
  What assault on public domain?
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    Copyright is supposed to be temporary. Instead terms have been extended to essentially infinite durations. The copyright industry has robbed us of our public domain rights.
maxk42 5y ago
Well they still haven't figured it out with YouTube.

rurp 5y ago

Sadly I expect that Google will "handle" those edge cases the same way they handle similar issues on Youtube: have a lot of false positives and tell users to pound sand, except for cases where the outrage goes viral.

jhgb 5y ago

> that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out How do you figure out legality of having a document from the document? Unless it's child porn, where it's implicit, this simply isn't computable.

anshumankmr 5y ago
Maintaining a hash of say music files that are owned by large record label companies or a conglomerate like VeVo, match every audio file uploaded with the hash and if it matches, flag it, get it reviewed and if it matches, delete it?
- foxfluff 5y ago
  That does not answer legality.
  - anshumankmr 5y ago
    However, VeVo can say that no one can keep MP3 records if it isn't hosted on iTunes, YouTube Music or Spotify etc
    - jhgb 5y ago
      In my country that would be almost certainly illegal. Not even copyright holders can tell you what you can do with your personal copies of copyrighted works, short of distributing them to someone else. By law they're explicitly prevented from doing that.
      - spc476 5y ago
        The cloud is "someone else".
        jhgb 5y ago
        Not necessarily for the purpose of our copyright act. Neither is your personal bank deposit box if you put a book in it. You're not transferring ownership of your belongings to the bank if you put something in it.

judge2020 5y ago

Assuming for video content they use their existing YouTube Content ID library, they can exclude/allow their Google accounts to have that content, or host it under the same user as their YT channel.

jevoten 5y ago

Is it an edge case? Thanks to copyright's assault on the public domain, almost everything is copyrighted. Is making a backup of your movies, music, and e-books unusual?

andi999 5y ago
What assault on public domain?
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  Copyright is supposed to be temporary. Instead terms have been extended to essentially infinite durations. The copyright industry has robbed us of our public domain rights.

maxk42 5y ago

Well they still haven't figured it out with YouTube.