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No - it's that if you talk to these "vaccine-hesitant" friends the idea is that the IMF and others want something bad enough to happen (COVID, Cyberattack) so t

No - it's that if you talk to these "vaccine-hesitant" friends the idea is that the IMF and others want something bad enough to happen (COVID, Cyberattack) so that they can tackle wealth inequality, climate change, the like. Cyberattack simulations is because COVID didn't work as well as they thought. Which I think is a very cynical take - but I'm not exactly thrilled with some of the statements of these organization's leaders.

thr0wawayf00 5y ago
I just can't understand why an organization like the IMF, which has a major financial incentives in maintaining the current system and a tremendous amount of power, would just blow it all up. Just like most conspiracy theories, the idea just doesn't make sense once you get past the sensationalism. What kind of power are they seeking that they don't already have?
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  I wish I could say - you'd need to ask them, I guess. I will say that I have noticed that people care far more about the IMF and others than they did pre-pandemic.
  - thr0wawayf00 5y ago
    It's mostly a rhetorical question, because the answers that conspiracy communities come up to basic questions like that often involve insane and fantastical misdirections like pedophilia.
    - LongTimeAnon 5y ago
    - desine 5y ago
      You're the first mention of pedophilia in this thread :-) But also you should realize that after attaining a certain level you cannot be bribed anymore and can only be blackmailed
    - lsiq 5y ago
      Yeah when Alan Dershowitz says on TV that he was introduced to Epstein by Lynn R*thschild we shouldn't read too much into it right? Or when Cindy McCain says that everyone knew what Epstein was doing but no legal entity would go after him. Its fantastical really.
- desine 5y ago
  It was already going to blow up. Internationally, every country is in a credit hole so deep most will be unable to make interest payments in the next few years. The collapse was coming one way or the other, so the controlled demolition was chosen. Whether you feel it was planned or not, the lockdowns did pretty much halt the velocity of money. Sure they printed a ton of social care money, but again the inflationary trap had already been set, it was the velocity that needed to be killed to buy some time.
- hammock 5y ago
  IMF's business model is blowing up countries and then buying them for a song. This idea extends the concept.
twomoonsbysurf 5y ago
an9n 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  Would you please stop using HN primarily for ideological battle? We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're battling for or against, because it destroys what this site is supposed to be for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
  - nicodjimenez 5y ago
    This is BS. HN is full of ideological battles about everything from K8 to crypto to globalism. That’s what makes it fun.
    - dang 5y ago
      Did you miss the word 'primarily'? That's the most important thing in what I posted above. These links explain why: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20bimodal%20accounts&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... As for ideological battle generally—the site guidelines make a distinction between that and curious conversation, which is what we want here. Not only are they not the same, they're not compatible—for the same reason that having a tank battle and playing frisbee in the park are not compatible, or that boxing and dancing aren't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20battle%20defeat%20curious&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Many topics here have ideological and political overlap—. That's generally ok, as long as there's a basis for substantive discussion (pure flamebait articles, for example, are off topic). https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... But the question is how people go about talking about them. If they're just trying to smite enemies and using the usual weapons (snark, name-calling, etc.) to do it, that's clearly against the site guidelines and not what we want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
lupire 5y ago
The IMF is a banking comsortium. it cares about making profitable/predatory loans, not climate change and wealth inequality.

thr0wawayf00 5y ago

I just can't understand why an organization like the IMF, which has a major financial incentives in maintaining the current system and a tremendous amount of power, would just blow it all up. Just like most conspiracy theories, the idea just doesn't make sense once you get past the sensationalism. What kind of power are they seeking that they don't already have?

gjsman-1000 5y ago
I wish I could say - you'd need to ask them, I guess. I will say that I have noticed that people care far more about the IMF and others than they did pre-pandemic.
- thr0wawayf00 5y ago
  It's mostly a rhetorical question, because the answers that conspiracy communities come up to basic questions like that often involve insane and fantastical misdirections like pedophilia.
  - LongTimeAnon 5y ago
  - desine 5y ago
    You're the first mention of pedophilia in this thread :-) But also you should realize that after attaining a certain level you cannot be bribed anymore and can only be blackmailed
  - lsiq 5y ago
    Yeah when Alan Dershowitz says on TV that he was introduced to Epstein by Lynn R*thschild we shouldn't read too much into it right? Or when Cindy McCain says that everyone knew what Epstein was doing but no legal entity would go after him. Its fantastical really.
desine 5y ago
It was already going to blow up. Internationally, every country is in a credit hole so deep most will be unable to make interest payments in the next few years. The collapse was coming one way or the other, so the controlled demolition was chosen. Whether you feel it was planned or not, the lockdowns did pretty much halt the velocity of money. Sure they printed a ton of social care money, but again the inflationary trap had already been set, it was the velocity that needed to be killed to buy some time.
hammock 5y ago
IMF's business model is blowing up countries and then buying them for a song. This idea extends the concept.

twomoonsbysurf 5y ago

an9n 5y ago

dang 5y ago
Would you please stop using HN primarily for ideological battle? We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're battling for or against, because it destroys what this site is supposed to be for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
- nicodjimenez 5y ago
  This is BS. HN is full of ideological battles about everything from K8 to crypto to globalism. That’s what makes it fun.
  - dang 5y ago
    Did you miss the word 'primarily'? That's the most important thing in what I posted above. These links explain why: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20bimodal%20accounts&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... As for ideological battle generally—the site guidelines make a distinction between that and curious conversation, which is what we want here. Not only are they not the same, they're not compatible—for the same reason that having a tank battle and playing frisbee in the park are not compatible, or that boxing and dancing aren't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20battle%20defeat%20curious&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Many topics here have ideological and political overlap—. That's generally ok, as long as there's a basis for substantive discussion (pure flamebait articles, for example, are off topic). https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... But the question is how people go about talking about them. If they're just trying to smite enemies and using the usual weapons (snark, name-calling, etc.) to do it, that's clearly against the site guidelines and not what we want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lupire 5y ago

The IMF is a banking comsortium. it cares about making profitable/predatory loans, not climate change and wealth inequality.