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> And, as expected, it appears to be far less harmful than Delta, which was less harmful than the original novel cov2. This is how a virus evolves, it gets weak

> And, as expected, it appears to be far less harmful than Delta, which was less harmful than the original novel cov2. This is how a virus evolves, it gets weaker, which allows it to spread faster. Dead people don't spread viruses. It looks from the data that we are finally at the end of this pandemic. Yeah, no. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Check declining rate of hospitalization vs. Cases in Denmark, US, UK and Canada. It's not just south Africa anymore. Eg. https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epidemic/covid-19-updates-statistics-and-charts https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epide.... I'm aware of today's deaths = 13. But this could still be the result of delta or an anomaly ( will follow up tomorrow and the rest of the week) Fyi, Reuters COVID tracker is really nice! Unfortunately it tracks deaths and not hospitalisations, but that seems to be declining too: https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/denmark/ https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...
- jlokier 5y ago
  Reported death rate is currently increasing in the UK, and so are hospitalisations. The reported ratio of detected cases to deaths is reducing, but this what you would expect during the rapid spreading phase, because of the long time lag between detected cases and eventual death. We have to wait a few more weeks to find out what the true ratio is in the UK. It will emerge into statistical significance gradually, because some people die sooner than others, so expect a trickle of stories with varying shades of speculation. Unfortunately data on Long Covid is harder to come by, and this is just as concerning due to the high case numbers, and the way it severely affects people while tending to be under-reported and undiagnosed.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    New research: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/report-50-severity-omicron/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-ana...
- johnchristopher 5y ago
  So, how is that declining rate of hospitalization going? Today Change in 24 hours Hospitalised 579 +57
  - irthomasthomas 5y ago
    "Just one-fifth of new Covid hospital patients are true cases" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/28/covid-hospital-data-should-treated-caution-many-patients-admitted/?fr=operanews https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/28/covid-hospital-d...
    - johnchristopher 5y ago
      > Read the article and that "one fifth" claim is from a tiny snap shot of 250 cases. The rest of the data in the article shows the vast majority of the 8,000 plus hospital cases are full on Covid > The Telegraph is engaged in outright propaganda > Disgusting. Disgusting to spread it
      - irthomasthomas 5y ago
        Nonsense. Read for yourself https://archive.is/tybj9 https://archive.is/tybj9 Yes, the one-fifth is of the increase. But read the rest.. "Overall, nearly 30 per cent of people currently in hospital with Covid are “incidental” cases - 1,813 out of 6,245 - the highest it has been since the NHS started releasing the figures in the summer. The number of incidental Covid cases has been rising in recent weeks because omicron is far more infectious than delta, meaning that many people will be entering hospital unknowingly infected. In the previous week, December 7 to December 14 - when the vast majority of hospitalisations were still delta - some 59 per cent of the 289 weekly rise was primarily Covid. Experts said it was important to treat the current hospital data with caution, while Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University, said: “This is not the same disease we were seeing a year ago. “The horrific scenes that we saw a year ago – intensive care units being full, lots of people dying prematurely – that is now history in my view and I think…that’s likely to continue.""

NicoJuicy 5y ago

Check declining rate of hospitalization vs. Cases in Denmark, US, UK and Canada. It's not just south Africa anymore. Eg. https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epidemic/covid-19-updates-statistics-and-charts https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epide.... I'm aware of today's deaths = 13. But this could still be the result of delta or an anomaly ( will follow up tomorrow and the rest of the week) Fyi, Reuters COVID tracker is really nice! Unfortunately it tracks deaths and not hospitalisations, but that seems to be declining too: https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/denmark/ https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

jlokier 5y ago
Reported death rate is currently increasing in the UK, and so are hospitalisations. The reported ratio of detected cases to deaths is reducing, but this what you would expect during the rapid spreading phase, because of the long time lag between detected cases and eventual death. We have to wait a few more weeks to find out what the true ratio is in the UK. It will emerge into statistical significance gradually, because some people die sooner than others, so expect a trickle of stories with varying shades of speculation. Unfortunately data on Long Covid is harder to come by, and this is just as concerning due to the high case numbers, and the way it severely affects people while tending to be under-reported and undiagnosed.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  New research: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/report-50-severity-omicron/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-ana...
johnchristopher 5y ago
So, how is that declining rate of hospitalization going? Today Change in 24 hours Hospitalised 579 +57
- irthomasthomas 5y ago
  "Just one-fifth of new Covid hospital patients are true cases" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/28/covid-hospital-data-should-treated-caution-many-patients-admitted/?fr=operanews https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/28/covid-hospital-d...
  - johnchristopher 5y ago
    > Read the article and that "one fifth" claim is from a tiny snap shot of 250 cases. The rest of the data in the article shows the vast majority of the 8,000 plus hospital cases are full on Covid > The Telegraph is engaged in outright propaganda > Disgusting. Disgusting to spread it
    - irthomasthomas 5y ago
      Nonsense. Read for yourself https://archive.is/tybj9 https://archive.is/tybj9 Yes, the one-fifth is of the increase. But read the rest.. "Overall, nearly 30 per cent of people currently in hospital with Covid are “incidental” cases - 1,813 out of 6,245 - the highest it has been since the NHS started releasing the figures in the summer. The number of incidental Covid cases has been rising in recent weeks because omicron is far more infectious than delta, meaning that many people will be entering hospital unknowingly infected. In the previous week, December 7 to December 14 - when the vast majority of hospitalisations were still delta - some 59 per cent of the 289 weekly rise was primarily Covid. Experts said it was important to treat the current hospital data with caution, while Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University, said: “This is not the same disease we were seeing a year ago. “The horrific scenes that we saw a year ago – intensive care units being full, lots of people dying prematurely – that is now history in my view and I think…that’s likely to continue.""