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Omicron infections appear no less severe than Delta: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061

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walterbell 5y ago
Has anyone done a study on the track record of Imperial College London? Here are the Denmark Delta numbers for comparison, 19,137 Delta cases: 0.07% fatal, 0.11% ICU, 1.5% hospital 0.9% Covid-recovered 50% double vax, 3% booster 44% unvax, 3% single vax Tue Dec 21 update from South Africa, https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/most-omicron-patients-in-south-africa-recovering-with-simple-easy-treatment-says-dr-coetzee/articleshow/88409240.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/most... > Dr Angelique Coetzee, the senior doctor who first identified the variant, said that the line of treatment for Omicron patients is "quite easy". "We start immediately after the diagnosis with low dosage cortisone and something like ibuprofen to help with the muscle pain and headaches and that's it. That's what we give. There's nothing else. There's no oxygen, not even antibiotics required," she said. Briefing about the symptoms associated with the variant as it reaches the fifth week of its outbreak, Coetzee said, "Most of the cases reported so far manifest symptoms like body aches, headache, tiredness." "They may or may not have a cough; it is mostly dry cough with a sore and scratchy throat. According to a recent study, it affects the upper respiratory tract and doesn't affect the lower airways like the delta variant," she added.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  For anyone on their edge of their seat to commit a stats fallacy, don't forget that the base proportion of the population vaccinated is ~4x higher than the unvaxxed. The unvaxxed are comprising a massively higher share of the infections than their share of population here.
bko 5y ago
> "no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection." Isn't the ultimate test of severity death? I know its a lagging indicator but the numbers are so low (14 in UK total) compared to historical (over 100 deaths per day). And no omicron is the majority of cases, wouldn't you expect more deaths if it were as infectious? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/omicron-deaths/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/omicron-deaths/
- walterbell 5y ago
  Yes, deaths are an indicator. There have been zero US deaths from Omicron. There was one US death with Omicron: https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1473480933579923456?s=21 https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1473480933579923456?...

Omicron infections appear no less severe than Delta: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061

by 0-_-0 5y ago

Omicron infections appear no less severe than Delta: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29646061

walterbell 5y ago

Has anyone done a study on the track record of Imperial College London? Here are the Denmark Delta numbers for comparison, 19,137 Delta cases: 0.07% fatal, 0.11% ICU, 1.5% hospital 0.9% Covid-recovered 50% double vax, 3% booster 44% unvax, 3% single vax Tue Dec 21 update from South Africa, https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/most-omicron-patients-in-south-africa-recovering-with-simple-easy-treatment-says-dr-coetzee/articleshow/88409240.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/most... > Dr Angelique Coetzee, the senior doctor who first identified the variant, said that the line of treatment for Omicron patients is "quite easy". "We start immediately after the diagnosis with low dosage cortisone and something like ibuprofen to help with the muscle pain and headaches and that's it. That's what we give. There's nothing else. There's no oxygen, not even antibiotics required," she said. Briefing about the symptoms associated with the variant as it reaches the fifth week of its outbreak, Coetzee said, "Most of the cases reported so far manifest symptoms like body aches, headache, tiredness." "They may or may not have a cough; it is mostly dry cough with a sore and scratchy throat. According to a recent study, it affects the upper respiratory tract and doesn't affect the lower airways like the delta variant," she added.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
For anyone on their edge of their seat to commit a stats fallacy, don't forget that the base proportion of the population vaccinated is ~4x higher than the unvaxxed. The unvaxxed are comprising a massively higher share of the infections than their share of population here.

bko 5y ago

> "no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection." Isn't the ultimate test of severity death? I know its a lagging indicator but the numbers are so low (14 in UK total) compared to historical (over 100 deaths per day). And no omicron is the majority of cases, wouldn't you expect more deaths if it were as infectious? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/omicron-deaths/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/omicron-deaths/

walterbell 5y ago
Yes, deaths are an indicator. There have been zero US deaths from Omicron. There was one US death with Omicron: https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1473480933579923456?s=21 https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1473480933579923456?...