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I'm vaccinated myself and think that is smart but friends with some people who'd probably consider death before covid vaccines. According to them there is a go

I'm vaccinated myself and think that is smart but friends with some people who'd probably consider death before covid vaccines. According to them there is a good deal of things one can do to reduce risk of severe infections. Personally I have started taking extra vitamin D in addition to the one I get from cod liver oil. It sounds smart and it seems science supports it and I don't have to buy into the rest of what I think is kind of crazy. (to be perfectly clear, I'm vaccinated and I recommend it. Vaccines have small and uncertain side effects. Viruses have large and much more certain effects.)

gnfargbl 5y ago
Taking vitamin D is great and recommended for pretty much everyone, but the evidence for it being an effective prophylaxis against Covid-19 just isn't there[1]. By all means take it for general health reasons (I do too!) but don't expect it to provide you any specific protection. [1] https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng187/evidence/evidence-reviews-for-the-use-of-vitamin-d-supplementation-as-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid19-pdf-8957587789 https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng187/evidence/evidence-rev...
- skinkestek 5y ago
  Ok, I guess you are right. Let me rephrase it: if one also has a vitamin D deficit the chances of getting seriously ill increases significantly. Would that be correct? (Same is AFAIK true for being overweight but unlike increasing vitamin D levels which takes days or weeks, getting down to a healthy weight in a healthy way is a months long process.)
  - gnfargbl 5y ago
    I'm not sure. https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-021-00744-y https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937... says that isn't the case, but I have no idea how reliable that journal is. Overall, there is a weight of evidence in favour of vaccines (especially mRNA vaccines) being effective, and very little evidence for the various options that the antivax crowd like to put up as alternatives.
walterbell 5y ago
As part of a generic defensive regimen, zinc + zinc ionophores (OTC options include Quercetin and the green tea extract EGCG) are worth a look, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016201342100338X?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016201342... > Zinc can play a pathophysiological role in several diseases and can interfere in key processes of microbial growth. This evidence justifies the efforts in applying Zinc ionophores to restore Zinc homeostasis and treat bacterial/viral infections such as coronavirus diseases. Zinc ionophores increase the intracellular concentration of Zinc ions causing significant biological effects. This review provides, for the first time, an overview of the applications of the main Zinc ionophores in Zinc deficiency, infectious diseases, and in cancer, discussing the pharmacological and coordination properties of the Zinc ionophores.
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leereeves 5y ago
> friends with some people who'd probably consider death before covid vaccines I know some people like that and I've had some success encouraging them to take the Novavax vaccine (a traditional vaccine that's said to be safer and cheaper [1]) when it's approved. I can't be sure they will but they've said they'd consider it. 1: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-n...

gnfargbl 5y ago

Taking vitamin D is great and recommended for pretty much everyone, but the evidence for it being an effective prophylaxis against Covid-19 just isn't there[1]. By all means take it for general health reasons (I do too!) but don't expect it to provide you any specific protection. [1] https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng187/evidence/evidence-reviews-for-the-use-of-vitamin-d-supplementation-as-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid19-pdf-8957587789 https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng187/evidence/evidence-rev...

skinkestek 5y ago
Ok, I guess you are right. Let me rephrase it: if one also has a vitamin D deficit the chances of getting seriously ill increases significantly. Would that be correct? (Same is AFAIK true for being overweight but unlike increasing vitamin D levels which takes days or weeks, getting down to a healthy weight in a healthy way is a months long process.)
- gnfargbl 5y ago
  I'm not sure. https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-021-00744-y https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937... says that isn't the case, but I have no idea how reliable that journal is. Overall, there is a weight of evidence in favour of vaccines (especially mRNA vaccines) being effective, and very little evidence for the various options that the antivax crowd like to put up as alternatives.

walterbell 5y ago

As part of a generic defensive regimen, zinc + zinc ionophores (OTC options include Quercetin and the green tea extract EGCG) are worth a look, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016201342100338X?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016201342... > Zinc can play a pathophysiological role in several diseases and can interfere in key processes of microbial growth. This evidence justifies the efforts in applying Zinc ionophores to restore Zinc homeostasis and treat bacterial/viral infections such as coronavirus diseases. Zinc ionophores increase the intracellular concentration of Zinc ions causing significant biological effects. This review provides, for the first time, an overview of the applications of the main Zinc ionophores in Zinc deficiency, infectious diseases, and in cancer, discussing the pharmacological and coordination properties of the Zinc ionophores.

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leereeves 5y ago

> friends with some people who'd probably consider death before covid vaccines I know some people like that and I've had some success encouraging them to take the Novavax vaccine (a traditional vaccine that's said to be safer and cheaper [1]) when it's approved. I can't be sure they will but they've said they'd consider it. 1: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-n...