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Being Italian, I find queer that I never heard anything even similar to the two cited sayings: >I will talk about it with my horse (Italian) >I don’t give a c

by jaclaz 5y ago

Being Italian, I find queer that I never heard anything even similar to the two cited sayings: >I will talk about it with my horse (Italian) >I don’t give a cabbage (Italy) EDIT: Ok, correction, the second one, as "I don't care a cabbage" is fine.

1_player 5y ago
"Non me ne frega un cavolo" is pretty common in Northern Italy, though I'd often go for the more vulgar "non me ne frega un cazzo." (I don't care/give a dick) Never heard the one about the horse either.
- jaclaz 5y ago
  Ahh, I see, I didn't get the meaning of "give" as "care", now it makes sense.
- pmontra 5y ago
  Yup, with "frega" probably translated into "rub".
  - 1_player 5y ago
    "fregare" means to rub. "fregarsene" means to care. I forget my Italian grammar classes, but I think they're considered two different verbs.
    - Kipters 5y ago
      To rub is "sfregare", "fregare" means either to steal something or to con someone. As you said, "fregarsene" means to care.
riffraff 5y ago
Might be a regional thing, like most things Italian, being from Lazio I also never heard those.
- jaclaz 5y ago
  Yep, in Rome and around it, probably as someone said in another comment, "sticazzi" would be used, though I think that it has a slightly different meaning. In Tuscany, it would be the "(but) I care (or don't care) a (beautiful) saw"->(ma) (non) m'importa una (bella) sega)
lultimouomo 5y ago
Never heard about the horse either; the cabbage thing is a translation of "non me ne importa un cavolo" (I don't care a cabbage), which is just a self-restrained version of the more common "non me ne importa un cazzo" (I don't care a dick)
__void 5y ago
I don't know them either, never heard before... also missing the more generic "I care a saw" or "dicks keying".
miniwark 5y ago
We do have the horse one in french : "J'en parlerais à mon cheval". It's generaly used to reply to someone questioning, nagging or bulling you, to face slapping him a bit. I'ts a sort of self-defence tactic and can be more translated by "this is not your business" than "i don't care". In the same way we have the more aggressive ones : "Est-ce que je te demande si ta grand-mère fait du vélo ?" or "Et ta sœur, elle bat le beurre ?" https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/j%E2%80%99en_parlerai_%C3%A0_mon_cheval https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/j%E2%80%99en_parlerai_%C3%A0_... https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/et_ta_s%C5%93ur_%3F_elle_bat_le_beurre https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/et_ta_s%C5%93ur_%3F_elle_bat_... https://www.expressio.fr/expressions/est-ce-que-je-te-demande-si-ta-grand-mere-fait-du-velo https://www.expressio.fr/expressions/est-ce-que-je-te-demand...

by jaclaz 5y ago

1_player 5y ago

"Non me ne frega un cavolo" is pretty common in Northern Italy, though I'd often go for the more vulgar "non me ne frega un cazzo." (I don't care/give a dick) Never heard the one about the horse either.

jaclaz 5y ago
Ahh, I see, I didn't get the meaning of "give" as "care", now it makes sense.
pmontra 5y ago
Yup, with "frega" probably translated into "rub".
- 1_player 5y ago
  "fregare" means to rub. "fregarsene" means to care. I forget my Italian grammar classes, but I think they're considered two different verbs.
  - Kipters 5y ago
    To rub is "sfregare", "fregare" means either to steal something or to con someone. As you said, "fregarsene" means to care.

riffraff 5y ago

Might be a regional thing, like most things Italian, being from Lazio I also never heard those.

jaclaz 5y ago
Yep, in Rome and around it, probably as someone said in another comment, "sticazzi" would be used, though I think that it has a slightly different meaning. In Tuscany, it would be the "(but) I care (or don't care) a (beautiful) saw"->(ma) (non) m'importa una (bella) sega)

lultimouomo 5y ago

Never heard about the horse either; the cabbage thing is a translation of "non me ne importa un cavolo" (I don't care a cabbage), which is just a self-restrained version of the more common "non me ne importa un cazzo" (I don't care a dick)

__void 5y ago

I don't know them either, never heard before... also missing the more generic "I care a saw" or "dicks keying".

miniwark 5y ago

We do have the horse one in french : "J'en parlerais à mon cheval". It's generaly used to reply to someone questioning, nagging or bulling you, to face slapping him a bit. I'ts a sort of self-defence tactic and can be more translated by "this is not your business" than "i don't care". In the same way we have the more aggressive ones : "Est-ce que je te demande si ta grand-mère fait du vélo ?" or "Et ta sœur, elle bat le beurre ?" https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/j%E2%80%99en_parlerai_%C3%A0_mon_cheval https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/j%E2%80%99en_parlerai_%C3%A0_... https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/et_ta_s%C5%93ur_%3F_elle_bat_le_beurre https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/et_ta_s%C5%93ur_%3F_elle_bat_... https://www.expressio.fr/expressions/est-ce-que-je-te-demande-si-ta-grand-mere-fait-du-velo https://www.expressio.fr/expressions/est-ce-que-je-te-demand...