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Exactly my experience as well. In my home country I was an extrovert. In native English speaking country I turned to an introvert. Best approach I've seen is t

Exactly my experience as well. In my home country I was an extrovert. In native English speaking country I turned to an introvert. Best approach I've seen is to speak regardless of making mistakes. What wears out the listeners is not that much the mistakes (they usually can understand what you mean by the context) but altering your tempo or having it too slow to errr and emmmm. As long as you keep it steady and to a decent pace you should be ok.

perlpimp 5y ago
In russia I was introvert but my english teacher's love of english turned to english lover and more of an extrovert. Way that insinuation works in English is brilliant and how I liked to compress what I am saying, russian is very intricate but verbose language, I found home in English though being down to the center bi-cultural, bi-lingual. Generally I feel english is so super efficient and dramatic language but russian is a feeling language kind of more precise but also heavy. My mind being slow I prefer English and it makes me more extraverted, russian being good with close friends but clumsy with external world. 2c.
i_hate_pigeons 5y ago
It's not just the mistakes, when I speak with my non-standard accent or slightly incorrect phonetics the listener needs to work harder to process information, even if unconciously, and this on it's own already is detrimental or activates some bias.
doom2 5y ago
I've been mostly the same in my efforts to learn Mandarin. Not only am I much more introverted speaking Chinese, but I'm also easily frustrated trying to get my point across. The Chinese they teach you in school is the extremely standardized version of the language (maybe similar to the concept of 'global English'?) which maps very poorly to what you hear anywhere that isn't CCTV news programs. The biggest challenge, though, has been native Chinese speakers just shaking their heads when you speak to them and pretending not to understand. It's clear no effort is being made. I've seen fellow Americans do this too, and it's extremely frustrating having been on the other side of that situation. Thankfully I sometimes get a morale boost from restaurant/shop workers who complement me, even though it's clear I'm speaking at a kindergarten level.

perlpimp 5y ago

In russia I was introvert but my english teacher's love of english turned to english lover and more of an extrovert. Way that insinuation works in English is brilliant and how I liked to compress what I am saying, russian is very intricate but verbose language, I found home in English though being down to the center bi-cultural, bi-lingual. Generally I feel english is so super efficient and dramatic language but russian is a feeling language kind of more precise but also heavy. My mind being slow I prefer English and it makes me more extraverted, russian being good with close friends but clumsy with external world. 2c.

i_hate_pigeons 5y ago

It's not just the mistakes, when I speak with my non-standard accent or slightly incorrect phonetics the listener needs to work harder to process information, even if unconciously, and this on it's own already is detrimental or activates some bias.

doom2 5y ago

I've been mostly the same in my efforts to learn Mandarin. Not only am I much more introverted speaking Chinese, but I'm also easily frustrated trying to get my point across. The Chinese they teach you in school is the extremely standardized version of the language (maybe similar to the concept of 'global English'?) which maps very poorly to what you hear anywhere that isn't CCTV news programs. The biggest challenge, though, has been native Chinese speakers just shaking their heads when you speak to them and pretending not to understand. It's clear no effort is being made. I've seen fellow Americans do this too, and it's extremely frustrating having been on the other side of that situation. Thankfully I sometimes get a morale boost from restaurant/shop workers who complement me, even though it's clear I'm speaking at a kindergarten level.