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Too many people glorify staying at one employer for a substantial length of time. What people are doing now is what they should have done long ago: switch jobs

Too many people glorify staying at one employer for a substantial length of time. What people are doing now is what they should have done long ago: switch jobs if you're not comfortable with your work environment or pay. This also happens to re-calibrate your position in the job market so if you were being underpaid relative to the market you'll get a fair wage by forcing competition among employers.

civilized 5y ago
Went out for my first round of interviews in the better part of a decade. Got rejected although it was a "difficult decision" (sure whatever). It was good to break the streak though. Already setting up interviews at my next target.
- nyokodo 5y ago
  > Got rejected Your “get right back on the horse attitude” is good. I’ve been on both sides of interviews so many times. There’s a huge component of random crap and if you’re rusty it might take a bit to get back into it.
  - zerocount 5y ago
    Too much random crap. My last interview devolved into: "What do you think of Agile?", "What would be your perfect job?", and "Would you use .Net for a new project?" I was expecting a technical interview.
microtherion 5y ago
> Too many people glorify staying at one employer for a substantial length of time. Maybe. But I wonder whether others don't glorify job changes as the cure-all for work related problems. I've seen a number of friends change jobs with some regularity. In some cases, they got out of really bad situations into something obviously better. But that seems to be the exception. More frequently, the previous underlying problems (their attitude toward work, or toward co-workers, or systemic issues in the industry) re-emerged quickly in the new job. Somewhere in between are the "serial monogamists" of employees: They start a new job, are quite happy with it, after a few years, dissatisfaction starts creeping in, and they look for a new job and start over. For them, changing jobs regularly also might make sense.
- civilized 5y ago
  I don't think employers deserve to be compared to spouses. My spouse is kind, loyal, and behaves thoughtfully and with perfect integrity towards me. Because she saw my value and it was worth everything to her. My employer is a legal abstraction run by sociopaths who, when the rubber meets the road, time and again show no kindness, loyalty, thoughtfulness, or integrity whatsoever. Far from sharing fairly with me, like my spouse, I am sure they would happily murder me to make an extra buck. Profit maximization is the only principle to which they submit. I stick around for the paycheck. I will leave the moment I get offered a bigger one. Because it's what I want, and it's what they deserve. Maybe some day I will be lucky enough to work for an organization whose values and behavior in the world I respect. I will contemplate loyalty at that time and not before.

civilized 5y ago

Went out for my first round of interviews in the better part of a decade. Got rejected although it was a "difficult decision" (sure whatever). It was good to break the streak though. Already setting up interviews at my next target.

nyokodo 5y ago
> Got rejected Your “get right back on the horse attitude” is good. I’ve been on both sides of interviews so many times. There’s a huge component of random crap and if you’re rusty it might take a bit to get back into it.
- zerocount 5y ago
  Too much random crap. My last interview devolved into: "What do you think of Agile?", "What would be your perfect job?", and "Would you use .Net for a new project?" I was expecting a technical interview.

microtherion 5y ago

> Too many people glorify staying at one employer for a substantial length of time. Maybe. But I wonder whether others don't glorify job changes as the cure-all for work related problems. I've seen a number of friends change jobs with some regularity. In some cases, they got out of really bad situations into something obviously better. But that seems to be the exception. More frequently, the previous underlying problems (their attitude toward work, or toward co-workers, or systemic issues in the industry) re-emerged quickly in the new job. Somewhere in between are the "serial monogamists" of employees: They start a new job, are quite happy with it, after a few years, dissatisfaction starts creeping in, and they look for a new job and start over. For them, changing jobs regularly also might make sense.

civilized 5y ago
I don't think employers deserve to be compared to spouses. My spouse is kind, loyal, and behaves thoughtfully and with perfect integrity towards me. Because she saw my value and it was worth everything to her. My employer is a legal abstraction run by sociopaths who, when the rubber meets the road, time and again show no kindness, loyalty, thoughtfulness, or integrity whatsoever. Far from sharing fairly with me, like my spouse, I am sure they would happily murder me to make an extra buck. Profit maximization is the only principle to which they submit. I stick around for the paycheck. I will leave the moment I get offered a bigger one. Because it's what I want, and it's what they deserve. Maybe some day I will be lucky enough to work for an organization whose values and behavior in the world I respect. I will contemplate loyalty at that time and not before.