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Weren't a huge part of the issues around the insane hours per day and days per week required? > according to union workers, 72- to 84-hour work weeks — not a t

Weren't a huge part of the issues around the insane hours per day and days per week required? > according to union workers, 72- to 84-hour work weeks — not a typo — that includes mandated overtime and a point system that dings you if you dare beg off to go watch your son’s Little League game. (Kellogg’s claims its employees only work 52 to 56 hours a week and 90 percent of overtime is voluntary, a claim BCTGM workers hotly dispute.) It's easy to say it's 120k a year, but if they're working 80 hours a week to do that, then it's really only half that number. Even 52 hours a week is bonkers to me. I'd want considerably more tha my standard hourly rate to exceed 38 hours a week as well.

mathattack 5y ago
If overtime is at time and a half, 80 hours a week at 120K is closer to 48K base.
- jimt1234 5y ago
  there's also the time lost - time not spent with family or doing whatever else. that's priceless.
RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 5y ago
> [...] 90 percent of overtime is voluntary It's likely "voluntary" in the same sense that arbitration clauses are "voluntary" in many contracts. That is, you voluntarily agree to arbitration clauses in a contract because those terms are not mandated by statute to be in said contract. They are not voluntary is the sense that they're optional! You absolutely have to agree to those terms as part of the contract. Similarly, voluntary overtime likely just means the overtime itself was not initially stipulated hence by definition it's voluntary, rather than referring to whether agreeing to do overtime is voluntary. Aren't Equivocation Fallacy fun!