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This probably doesn't answer your question directly, but (if you haven't already) I'd recommend taking a look at: http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html http:/

This probably doesn't answer your question directly, but (if you haven't already) I'd recommend taking a look at: http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html (and his other essays)

ojbyrne 18y ago
Except that's old news (at least the real estate part of it). All that marginal space has been turned into paying real estate. Not only in SF but in just about every slightly expensive city in North America. There was an article last week in the NYT about garages and what they add to the value of a property in Manhattan. Its in the millions. Chances are, if you pay a million extra for a garage, at the very least, you're parking a car there. Admittedly, if you go far enough out in the suburbs, its not the case. But then you're in the suburbs, which has other challenges (transportation, etc). All that aside, SOMA is where everything happens. If you can't afford to live there look incrementally further south until you find a place that you can live.
- yrashk 18y ago
  Thanks! I am currently in a hotel in SOMA, but think to move a little bit southwest I guess — I don't want to spend more than $500/wk for rent, and housing is really a bit crazy in SF ;)
  - martian 18y ago
    You can definitely find a place cheaper than $500/wk in SF. I live in the city, and pay way less than that.
    - ojbyrne 18y ago
      Yep. I lived (alone) in a studio in Potrero Hill, $1050 a month.
    - yrashk 18y ago
      Short term rentals seems to be more expensive than long-term ones
  - rms 18y ago
    I would recommend roommates. 3/4 bedrooms are a lot cheaper per person than 1 bedrooms and you get a porch. If you post that you're looking for roommates here I expect you will find some. Or http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/ http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/
    - jwilliams 18y ago
      I agree completely - contingent on getting good roommates of course. 1. Keeps you sane having other people about. 2. Means you're in a big place. Staying and working in a studio would be claustrophobic. 3. You will probably meet other people. 4. It's loads cheaper... Course, if the flatmates aren't the right people then it would be hell on earth. You should probably be upfront if you're planning on working from home - wouldn't suit everyone.

ojbyrne 18y ago

Except that's old news (at least the real estate part of it). All that marginal space has been turned into paying real estate. Not only in SF but in just about every slightly expensive city in North America. There was an article last week in the NYT about garages and what they add to the value of a property in Manhattan. Its in the millions. Chances are, if you pay a million extra for a garage, at the very least, you're parking a car there. Admittedly, if you go far enough out in the suburbs, its not the case. But then you're in the suburbs, which has other challenges (transportation, etc). All that aside, SOMA is where everything happens. If you can't afford to live there look incrementally further south until you find a place that you can live.

yrashk 18y ago
Thanks! I am currently in a hotel in SOMA, but think to move a little bit southwest I guess — I don't want to spend more than $500/wk for rent, and housing is really a bit crazy in SF ;)
- martian 18y ago
  You can definitely find a place cheaper than $500/wk in SF. I live in the city, and pay way less than that.
  - ojbyrne 18y ago
    Yep. I lived (alone) in a studio in Potrero Hill, $1050 a month.
  - yrashk 18y ago
    Short term rentals seems to be more expensive than long-term ones
- rms 18y ago
  I would recommend roommates. 3/4 bedrooms are a lot cheaper per person than 1 bedrooms and you get a porch. If you post that you're looking for roommates here I expect you will find some. Or http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/ http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/
  - jwilliams 18y ago
    I agree completely - contingent on getting good roommates of course. 1. Keeps you sane having other people about. 2. Means you're in a big place. Staying and working in a studio would be claustrophobic. 3. You will probably meet other people. 4. It's loads cheaper... Course, if the flatmates aren't the right people then it would be hell on earth. You should probably be upfront if you're planning on working from home - wouldn't suit everyone.