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Why use a blockchain at all? Implement it using signed certificate chains (x509?) and say it's cryptographically secured via decentralized PKI, then you can off

Why use a blockchain at all? Implement it using signed certificate chains (x509?) and say it's cryptographically secured via decentralized PKI, then you can offer the same value proposition that basically all NFT platforms currently offer without all the environmental implications

enkid 5y ago
Call it "ecocrypto."
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  googled that and no definite matches!
- alanlammiman 5y ago
  you joke, but you wouldn't believe the number of artists and users that initially rejected our NFT app based on environmental concerns until we explained that transactions weren't on blockchain. Not saying the concerns aren't valid - they absolutely are - but it was just surprising.
  - packetlost 5y ago
    I'm a photographer and actively block any NFT activity I see on Twitter on sight.
    - alanlammiman 5y ago
      because of environmental concerns or another reason?
      - CryptoPunk 5y ago
        I suspect just a flight to social conformity.
      - packetlost 5y ago
        That's a primary concern, but I'm not a fan of the FOMO-driven, baseless, unregulated speculation that is all of crypto.
warrenq 5y ago
er4hn 5y ago
The blockchain acts as a central, trustless, clearing house for making sure you have not sold your same breadstick to 2 different people. signed chains only work if they go through a trusted authority that reconciles them and provides it's own (authoritative) proof that the trade happened and you own it.
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  Kinda the same thing from 10.000 meters.
- lisper 5y ago
  So publish your Merkle-tree hash in a classified ad in the NYT hardcopy edition at the close of each business day.
- heartbreak 5y ago
  You’re responding to a comment chain about selling the breadstick to 2 different people.
- deleted 5y ago
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tracyhenry 5y ago
Why use chains at all? Use Postgres. Digital ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users probably don't care about the security and decentralization.
- yummy_box 5y ago
  Why use databases at all? Use a txt file. Digital ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users probably don't care about the security, decentralization or databases at all.
  - alanlammiman 5y ago
    Why use software at all? Use a paper title registry. Ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users don't care about decentralization or file formats at all (disagree with your premise on security). Oh wait - that's how the actual Olive Gardens are owned ;)
    - evanfarrar 5y ago
      why use a registry at all? print NFTs on paper and mail it to the collectors.
      - perl4ever 5y ago
        Authenticity of physical collector's items is a big deal for some people. Some car manufacturers have discontinued providing certificates of authenticity for classic cars because they are afraid of being held responsible for counterfeit stampings and such (one assumes). I don't know specifically how NFTs can help with this, but if they're good for anything...
      - _tom_ 5y ago
        Why use NFTs at all? Just sell the originals!
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enkid 5y ago

Call it "ecocrypto."

SavantIdiot 5y ago
googled that and no definite matches!
alanlammiman 5y ago
you joke, but you wouldn't believe the number of artists and users that initially rejected our NFT app based on environmental concerns until we explained that transactions weren't on blockchain. Not saying the concerns aren't valid - they absolutely are - but it was just surprising.
- packetlost 5y ago
  I'm a photographer and actively block any NFT activity I see on Twitter on sight.
  - alanlammiman 5y ago
    because of environmental concerns or another reason?
    - CryptoPunk 5y ago
      I suspect just a flight to social conformity.
    - packetlost 5y ago
      That's a primary concern, but I'm not a fan of the FOMO-driven, baseless, unregulated speculation that is all of crypto.

warrenq 5y ago

er4hn 5y ago

The blockchain acts as a central, trustless, clearing house for making sure you have not sold your same breadstick to 2 different people. signed chains only work if they go through a trusted authority that reconciles them and provides it's own (authoritative) proof that the trade happened and you own it.

SavantIdiot 5y ago
Kinda the same thing from 10.000 meters.
lisper 5y ago
So publish your Merkle-tree hash in a classified ad in the NYT hardcopy edition at the close of each business day.
heartbreak 5y ago
You’re responding to a comment chain about selling the breadstick to 2 different people.
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tracyhenry 5y ago

Why use chains at all? Use Postgres. Digital ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users probably don't care about the security and decentralization.

yummy_box 5y ago
Why use databases at all? Use a txt file. Digital ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users probably don't care about the security, decentralization or databases at all.
- alanlammiman 5y ago
  Why use software at all? Use a paper title registry. Ownership and potential for profit are the value propositions. Most users don't care about decentralization or file formats at all (disagree with your premise on security). Oh wait - that's how the actual Olive Gardens are owned ;)
  - evanfarrar 5y ago
    why use a registry at all? print NFTs on paper and mail it to the collectors.
    - perl4ever 5y ago
      Authenticity of physical collector's items is a big deal for some people. Some car manufacturers have discontinued providing certificates of authenticity for classic cars because they are afraid of being held responsible for counterfeit stampings and such (one assumes). I don't know specifically how NFTs can help with this, but if they're good for anything...
    - _tom_ 5y ago
      Why use NFTs at all? Just sell the originals!
      - 5y ago

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