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> Stop spreading anti-vaxx information during a pandemic. Why do you keep resolving to ad-hominem attacks? People usually do that when the facts aren't on thei
by busymom0 5y ago
> Stop spreading anti-vaxx information during a pandemic.
Why do you keep resolving to ad-hominem attacks? People usually do that when the facts aren't on their side. I am also not an anti-vaxxer. I am fully vaccinated for other diseases and most likely more vaccines than the average Canadian because of my legal status. I also suggest elders, obese and those with comorbidities will benefit from the COVID shots. My problem is with "vaccine mandates", especially for young, fit and healthy people. Stop throwing around words when you don't know anything about me.
The very first link I had in my comment which you replied to agrees with what I said about 76% of cases in Ontario being fully vaccinated.
For example, today:
673 unvaccinated, 132 partially vaccinated and 2500 fully vaccinated cases.
Also, many of these partially vaccinated should be considered fully vaccinated as Pfizer is supposed to be fully vaccinated after 7 days, not 14 days whereas Ontario uses 14 days for that status and vast majority of our shots were Pfizer.
Even prior to omicron, the fully vaccinated cases were drastically rising, much faster than the rate of vaccinations. For example, when 72% of Ontario was fully vaccinated on October 8, 36.6% of cases were fully vaccinated. However, a month later when the vaccinations went up by only 3% (75%) on November 10, the cases went up by 12% with 48.4% of cases being fully vaccinated. This shows the drastic decline in efficacy after 3-6 months (remember - Ontario had under 10% vaccinations till June 10). Even if Omicron hadn't shown up, the fully vaccinated cases would have risen in a similar fashion by January. Omicron simply sped up that process.
The legal and scientific definition of a vaccine is "any substance designed to be administered to a human being for the prevention of 1 or more diseases".
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/4132#a_2 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/4132#a_2
"Prevention" is the key word here. These shots do not prevent infection, nor do they prevent transmission. They should never have been called "vaccines".
So far, you have ad hominem attacked me, used outdated data from August, ignored the link which I pointed to for Ontario. If the shots were so effective, then why are they pushing for 3rd doses for everyone and why is Pfizer talking about 4th dose already? When do you accept that these shots are not holding up to what they were sold as?
Pfizer CEO says fourth Covid vaccine doses may be needed sooner than expected due to omicron:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/omicron-pfizer-ceo-says-we-may-need-fourth-covid-vaccine-doses-sooner-than-expected.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/omicron-pfizer-ceo-says-we-m...
Israel giving 4th shot:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/middleeast/israel-fourth-covid-vaccine-booster-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/middleeast/israel-fourth-covi...
Never before have we given 3rd and 4th shots for any vaccine so fast. Tetanus shots boosters are given after 10 years if needed. And here we have 4 shots in less than a year.
This conversation is going nowhere, so I won't be responding further.