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A cushioned cardboard box is enough for a newborn. Its weakness could be moisture and high flammability. But aside from that it is perfect.

pandemicsoul 5y ago
I mean, they've been doing this for decades. Don't you think their dataset is probably more informed than your speculation?
- jmchuster 5y ago
  as my dad loves to say, 3000 years of chinese medicine _can't_ be wrong
- 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
  Well, those 2 criticisms are true. You can test that out yourself. What’s missing is that lots of things in your home are bad in water and are flammable. But how often do you need to save a baby from an evil villain by tossing their little box into a river and hope a nice childless couple who always wanted a child finds them and raises them as their own? Situations where the material is a liability are few and far between.
  - PebblesRox 5y ago
    >how often do you need to save a baby from an evil villain by tossing their little box into a river Maybe this fear explains the popularity of the Moses basket https://www.google.com/search?q=moses+basket&client=ms-android-motorola-rev2&prmd=sivxn&sxsrf=AOaemvJImIYBdzOq08izJwVoWjEE3TCzwQ:1640152945612&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj45czt3fb0AhUxmHIEHf8YAlsQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=412&bih=757&dpr=1.75 https://www.google.com/search?q=moses+basket&client=ms-andro...
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  The maternity kit includes more than just the box itself, which (along with concurrent economic development and other changes) confounds study of its effects. In fact, with imitations of the maternity kit (or just the box as a sleeping spot) becoming more popular outside of Finland recently, often boosted by marketing playing on the correlation of the kit and the decline in infant mortality in Finland, a number of health entities in recent years have raised concerns that the box-as-crib itself may be a safety risk rather than an aid.
tomcam 5y ago
Don’t worry, in my experience the vast majority of infants, while fairly moist, are not particularly flammable.
- jhgb 5y ago
  > while fairly moist, are not particularly flammable These two things seem to be connected. In my experience infants get more flammable as they get drier.
nextlevelwizard 5y ago
This is really odd comment. Like, yes, if you leave it outside in the rain that probably isn't the best for it, but it is a bed thous usually stay indoors. I don't get what your imaginary scenario is where the structure of the box is randomly compromised by the moisture. The flammability is even more strange. Again yeah, maybe don't put your baby box right in from the of the fireplace, but you probably wouldn't leave your baby there unsupervised anyway. Also babies usually aren't smokers so you don't have to worry about them dozing off with a cigarette and burning down the house.
- divbzero 5y ago
  Commenting on flammability is rather odd, but I have actually seen flammability warning tags attached to kids clothing — perhaps a sign of our overly litigious society.
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pandemicsoul 5y ago

I mean, they've been doing this for decades. Don't you think their dataset is probably more informed than your speculation?

jmchuster 5y ago
as my dad loves to say, 3000 years of chinese medicine _can't_ be wrong
2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
Well, those 2 criticisms are true. You can test that out yourself. What’s missing is that lots of things in your home are bad in water and are flammable. But how often do you need to save a baby from an evil villain by tossing their little box into a river and hope a nice childless couple who always wanted a child finds them and raises them as their own? Situations where the material is a liability are few and far between.
- PebblesRox 5y ago
  >how often do you need to save a baby from an evil villain by tossing their little box into a river Maybe this fear explains the popularity of the Moses basket https://www.google.com/search?q=moses+basket&client=ms-android-motorola-rev2&prmd=sivxn&sxsrf=AOaemvJImIYBdzOq08izJwVoWjEE3TCzwQ:1640152945612&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj45czt3fb0AhUxmHIEHf8YAlsQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=412&bih=757&dpr=1.75 https://www.google.com/search?q=moses+basket&client=ms-andro...
dragonwriter 5y ago
The maternity kit includes more than just the box itself, which (along with concurrent economic development and other changes) confounds study of its effects. In fact, with imitations of the maternity kit (or just the box as a sleeping spot) becoming more popular outside of Finland recently, often boosted by marketing playing on the correlation of the kit and the decline in infant mortality in Finland, a number of health entities in recent years have raised concerns that the box-as-crib itself may be a safety risk rather than an aid.

tomcam 5y ago

Don’t worry, in my experience the vast majority of infants, while fairly moist, are not particularly flammable.

jhgb 5y ago
> while fairly moist, are not particularly flammable These two things seem to be connected. In my experience infants get more flammable as they get drier.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago

This is really odd comment. Like, yes, if you leave it outside in the rain that probably isn't the best for it, but it is a bed thous usually stay indoors. I don't get what your imaginary scenario is where the structure of the box is randomly compromised by the moisture. The flammability is even more strange. Again yeah, maybe don't put your baby box right in from the of the fireplace, but you probably wouldn't leave your baby there unsupervised anyway. Also babies usually aren't smokers so you don't have to worry about them dozing off with a cigarette and burning down the house.

divbzero 5y ago
Commenting on flammability is rather odd, but I have actually seen flammability warning tags attached to kids clothing — perhaps a sign of our overly litigious society.

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