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https://danluu.com/car-safety/ https://danluu.com/car-safety/ This is a big improvement from 2012, before small overlaps became a KPI for safety.

londons_explore 5y ago
Perhaps regulators should take on a different approach... > Car manufacturers that sell more than 1 million vehicles shall pay $1M per driver, occupant or pedestrian death that occurs involving a car sold by that manufacturer. The payment shall be made irrespective of cause of death, state of maintenance of the car, or fault of any accident. This gives car manufacturers a direct, ongoing and financial incentive to make cars safer, not just to pass safety tests.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  And optionally, a car company can choose to increase that $1M number to $5M or $10M or even higher, and is then given a star rating for doing so that they can use on marketing material.
  - rafale 5y ago
    You don't have a moral case for that kind of rule though. The end doesn't justify the mean. If a drunk person drives his Chevy through a crowd and kill 10 people, why would GM pay 10 millions? Our country was built on personal responsibility and accountability as core values. This applies to businesses by extension (business = shareholders). It's better to simply mandate a certain minimum. Seat belts, backup cameras and ABS are examples.
    - epgui 5y ago
      You saying there is no moral case for it does not make it so. I think the idea that was proposed is at least academically interesting to consider. If you can’t see why, maybe you should dig into why your moral values are what they are: what tradeoffs are you making?
    - londons_explore 5y ago
      That's why this only applies to companies who have sold 1 million cars... The individual drunk idiot then disappears into the noise, which will apply equally to all car companies. Consider the proposal less of a fine for each death, and more of a taxation based on death rate.

londons_explore 5y ago

Perhaps regulators should take on a different approach... > Car manufacturers that sell more than 1 million vehicles shall pay $1M per driver, occupant or pedestrian death that occurs involving a car sold by that manufacturer. The payment shall be made irrespective of cause of death, state of maintenance of the car, or fault of any accident. This gives car manufacturers a direct, ongoing and financial incentive to make cars safer, not just to pass safety tests.

londons_explore 5y ago
And optionally, a car company can choose to increase that $1M number to $5M or $10M or even higher, and is then given a star rating for doing so that they can use on marketing material.
- rafale 5y ago
  You don't have a moral case for that kind of rule though. The end doesn't justify the mean. If a drunk person drives his Chevy through a crowd and kill 10 people, why would GM pay 10 millions? Our country was built on personal responsibility and accountability as core values. This applies to businesses by extension (business = shareholders). It's better to simply mandate a certain minimum. Seat belts, backup cameras and ABS are examples.
  - epgui 5y ago
    You saying there is no moral case for it does not make it so. I think the idea that was proposed is at least academically interesting to consider. If you can’t see why, maybe you should dig into why your moral values are what they are: what tradeoffs are you making?
  - londons_explore 5y ago
    That's why this only applies to companies who have sold 1 million cars... The individual drunk idiot then disappears into the noise, which will apply equally to all car companies. Consider the proposal less of a fine for each death, and more of a taxation based on death rate.