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If covid really is the greatest threat to our society like the media leads us to believe, covid testing and vaccine passports can't be on the honor system or ea

by umvi 5y ago

If covid really is the greatest threat to our society like the media leads us to believe, covid testing and vaccine passports can't be on the honor system or easily faked. We need a new government agency like the "Public Health Compliance Administration" (similar to the DEA or TSA) to enforce the compliance. Non-compliance would result in huge fines or felonies. PHCA officers would have the authority to raid houses suspected of hosting super-spreader events (birthday parties, thanksgiving dinners, etc.) and or stop and test random people in restaurants, arresting those who are unvaccinated with a fake passport. Sounds crazy, but we are on the path to increasingly authoritarian covid compliance. Other countries are even further along that path. I personally think covid is no longer an emergency with the advent of vaccines. I say leave it up to the individual whether to get vaccinated or not, and implement bed rationing for the unvaccinated if ICUs are over capacity. Otherwise there is no endgame, we will wring our hands and live in fear until the end of time.

Shorel 5y ago
I personally think covid is no longer an emergency with the advent of the pill. In a few months, I expect it will be over.
- umvi 5y ago
  I would love for it to be "over" in a few months, but until the media stops fear mongering every variant and case rates and such it won't be over.
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  Do you mean horse dewormer pills? They should make them really huge and taste terrible and turn your pee blue, just to fuck with people stupid enough to take them for Covid. umvi: It would already be long over with vastly fewer deaths, if only certain politicians and their followers hadn't downplayed it and lied about it from the beginning, and made not wearing masks and not social distancing and not getting vaccinated and instead popping horse pills hot-button political issues, all the while accusing the scientists and media of fear mongering, when the media was actually just reporting the scientific facts that trained experts were telling them, but that those certain politicians were systematically ignoring and lying about. Fear mongering about the dangers of Covid may annoy and inconvenience you, but the most deadly, consequential, and intentionally deceptive fear mongering is from the lies and propaganda those politicians and their media outlets are spreading against vaccines and masks and social distancing. qwertywert_: And how much do you want to bet that the exact same people presently popping horse dewormer pills while refusing for political reasons to social distance, wear masks, or get vaccinated are going to also refuse to take the Pfizer pill because they decided to make it a political issue too? If they don't trust science and Pfizer and their vaccines, then why would they ever trust Pfizer's pills? (Which begs the question: why the hell do they trust horse dewormer pills if they don't trust vaccines? Answer: because they were told to.) Those people would eat lead coated asbestos pills if their cult leader told them to. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asbestos-707642/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-as... https://www.asbestos.com/news/2018/07/11/russia-asbestos-trump/ https://www.asbestos.com/news/2018/07/11/russia-asbestos-tru... It's never going to be over until after those people have finished selecting themselves out of the gene pool, and that's going be a long painful time, while they're dragging many innocent people down with them.
  - qwertywert_ 5y ago
    No there's a Pfizer pill now, they are in phase 2/3.
    - adamrezich 5y ago
      oh ok well as long as it's a Pfizer pill
  - Shorel 5y ago
    What in the (insert various expletives here) made you react such poorly? This is not the place for such knee-jerk reactions. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-new-pill-pfizer-deaths-b1952155.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-new-pill-pf... And more important IMO: https://en.mercopress.com/2021/11/16/patents-of-pfizer-s-pill-against-c-19-free-for-other-labs-to-use https://en.mercopress.com/2021/11/16/patents-of-pfizer-s-pil...

by umvi 5y ago

Shorel 5y ago

I personally think covid is no longer an emergency with the advent of the pill. In a few months, I expect it will be over.

umvi 5y ago
I would love for it to be "over" in a few months, but until the media stops fear mongering every variant and case rates and such it won't be over.
DonHopkins 5y ago
Do you mean horse dewormer pills? They should make them really huge and taste terrible and turn your pee blue, just to fuck with people stupid enough to take them for Covid. umvi: It would already be long over with vastly fewer deaths, if only certain politicians and their followers hadn't downplayed it and lied about it from the beginning, and made not wearing masks and not social distancing and not getting vaccinated and instead popping horse pills hot-button political issues, all the while accusing the scientists and media of fear mongering, when the media was actually just reporting the scientific facts that trained experts were telling them, but that those certain politicians were systematically ignoring and lying about. Fear mongering about the dangers of Covid may annoy and inconvenience you, but the most deadly, consequential, and intentionally deceptive fear mongering is from the lies and propaganda those politicians and their media outlets are spreading against vaccines and masks and social distancing. qwertywert_: And how much do you want to bet that the exact same people presently popping horse dewormer pills while refusing for political reasons to social distance, wear masks, or get vaccinated are going to also refuse to take the Pfizer pill because they decided to make it a political issue too? If they don't trust science and Pfizer and their vaccines, then why would they ever trust Pfizer's pills? (Which begs the question: why the hell do they trust horse dewormer pills if they don't trust vaccines? Answer: because they were told to.) Those people would eat lead coated asbestos pills if their cult leader told them to. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asbestos-707642/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-as... https://www.asbestos.com/news/2018/07/11/russia-asbestos-trump/ https://www.asbestos.com/news/2018/07/11/russia-asbestos-tru... It's never going to be over until after those people have finished selecting themselves out of the gene pool, and that's going be a long painful time, while they're dragging many innocent people down with them.
- qwertywert_ 5y ago
  No there's a Pfizer pill now, they are in phase 2/3.
  - adamrezich 5y ago
    oh ok well as long as it's a Pfizer pill
- Shorel 5y ago
  What in the (insert various expletives here) made you react such poorly? This is not the place for such knee-jerk reactions. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-new-pill-pfizer-deaths-b1952155.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-new-pill-pf... And more important IMO: https://en.mercopress.com/2021/11/16/patents-of-pfizer-s-pill-against-c-19-free-for-other-labs-to-use https://en.mercopress.com/2021/11/16/patents-of-pfizer-s-pil...