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I’m reasonably sure I would have avoided that based on the uncompressed, from pretty early on you can see “somethings not right”. Wife works in automotive engi

I’m reasonably sure I would have avoided that based on the uncompressed, from pretty early on you can see “somethings not right”. Wife works in automotive engineering and I asked her why FCW and AEB didn’t detect it and her only thought is that because the truck is on the same angle as the central reservation and already in a bit of state it might not have detected it, although she thinks that more likely something just went wrong

BitwiseFool 5y ago
If I'm being honest with myself, I would have hit the truck going just as fast and not noticed until it was far too late. The first sign of a problem was the skid marks, but but then the collision was unavoidable. I tried going back and looking to see if the oncoming headlights were obscured by the body of the truck, but I wasn't able to discern that. I also thought I might have been able to take the 18 wheeler's reaction as a clue, but it passed the wreck in the other lane and only starting braking right as it passed it.
- simonbarker87 5y ago
  I think the issue with watching it like this is that you’re not currently driving so not attuned to what you’re looking for. I guess the issue with autopilot is that the driver likewise isn’t attunded to driving as they are on autopilot. With that in mind, in this exact scenario, I would have hit it also. Only with full manual control of the car do I think I could have avoided it.
- labcomputer 5y ago
  > The first sign of a problem was the skid marks, but but then the collision was unavoidable. I'm pretty sure I would have hit the truck too[1], but there actually was an earlier clue: Headlights from oncoming traffic are occluded by the two crashed vehicles ahead. When rewatching the video (so I know both that I should be looking for something and approximately where that something is), the occluded headlights are pretty obvious. An attentive driver may have noticed the vehicles, but I think most people saying the truck was obvious are deluding themselves. [1] The first time I watched the video, my reaction was "Where is this tru-OHSHIT".
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    This being on bend I would expect your average driver to pay bit more attention than on straight road. Specially with opposing traffic being near.
swat535 5y ago
> I’m reasonably sure I would have avoided that based on the uncompressed I'm not so sure I would have. If I'm driving at 120km/h , at night, chances are I'm also tiered and reacting that quickly at that speed with limited vision would have been a coin toss for me. I'm all for making these cars safer but we are watching that video, knowing the truck would be there but fail to consider all the extra context around it. I think accidents can and will happen with self driving cars, no matter what we do.

BitwiseFool 5y ago

If I'm being honest with myself, I would have hit the truck going just as fast and not noticed until it was far too late. The first sign of a problem was the skid marks, but but then the collision was unavoidable. I tried going back and looking to see if the oncoming headlights were obscured by the body of the truck, but I wasn't able to discern that. I also thought I might have been able to take the 18 wheeler's reaction as a clue, but it passed the wreck in the other lane and only starting braking right as it passed it.

simonbarker87 5y ago
I think the issue with watching it like this is that you’re not currently driving so not attuned to what you’re looking for. I guess the issue with autopilot is that the driver likewise isn’t attunded to driving as they are on autopilot. With that in mind, in this exact scenario, I would have hit it also. Only with full manual control of the car do I think I could have avoided it.
labcomputer 5y ago
> The first sign of a problem was the skid marks, but but then the collision was unavoidable. I'm pretty sure I would have hit the truck too[1], but there actually was an earlier clue: Headlights from oncoming traffic are occluded by the two crashed vehicles ahead. When rewatching the video (so I know both that I should be looking for something and approximately where that something is), the occluded headlights are pretty obvious. An attentive driver may have noticed the vehicles, but I think most people saying the truck was obvious are deluding themselves. [1] The first time I watched the video, my reaction was "Where is this tru-OHSHIT".
- Ekaros 5y ago
  This being on bend I would expect your average driver to pay bit more attention than on straight road. Specially with opposing traffic being near.

swat535 5y ago

> I’m reasonably sure I would have avoided that based on the uncompressed I'm not so sure I would have. If I'm driving at 120km/h , at night, chances are I'm also tiered and reacting that quickly at that speed with limited vision would have been a coin toss for me. I'm all for making these cars safer but we are watching that video, knowing the truck would be there but fail to consider all the extra context around it. I think accidents can and will happen with self driving cars, no matter what we do.