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Visibility of the stopped truck aside, one could see even in the non-compressed version of the video how the truck obscures headlights of on-coming vehicles. Hu

Visibility of the stopped truck aside, one could see even in the non-compressed version of the video how the truck obscures headlights of on-coming vehicles. Human drivers can pick up on that contextual information to see that something might be there to obscure the light even if it's not clearly visible on its own.

animal_spirits 5y ago
I think this is one of the big points about humans vs. computers for complicated problem solving like this: context. The autopilot's job is to drive the car safely when it can. It's job isn't to pick up the tiny minutia of offputting sensory input like obstructed headlights - it isn't programmed to _reason_ about things like that, something that would raise the hairs on a human and cause them to double check what's in front of them.
- a_square_peg 5y ago
  Yeah, I think this is really fascinating and challenging aspect of AI and self-driving. We have a model of the world in our brain and we're constantly evaluating what ought to be there or not and checking consistency between all the sensory information we receive but don't think AI is quite there yet.
  - animal_spirits 5y ago
    I think that in our constantly changing world AI will never be able to "catch up" with us. It might be able to have some ability to "catch up" to where humans are now, but that will take many decades, and by that point there will be new obstructions and different things to watch out for and it will need new training again. I have an intuition that these machines will always be lagging behind. But maybe I'm wrong.
    - mbg721 5y ago
      There's a legitimate fear that AI will be just good enough to be the scapegoat for bad or lazy decisions that devastate people's lives. To some extent that's already here, but imagine widespread drone policing, social credit, or nanny-state appliances.
      - animal_spirits 5y ago
        Yeah. There's no justice system for computer programs.
        mbg721 5y ago
        There is; we find and prosecute their human creators if they commit a crime. Every intermediate step is just smoke and mirrors. You wouldn't say, "Well, we can't charge the gun with anything..."
        animal_spirits 5y ago
        While theoretically that would be the best solution but I don't imagine it working in practice. No one was sentenced to jail for manslaughter or homicide for the Boeing 737 MAX failures. Company gets fined -> lower level less wealthy employees get laid off -> execs retain wealth & start a new company

animal_spirits 5y ago

I think this is one of the big points about humans vs. computers for complicated problem solving like this: context. The autopilot's job is to drive the car safely when it can. It's job isn't to pick up the tiny minutia of offputting sensory input like obstructed headlights - it isn't programmed to _reason_ about things like that, something that would raise the hairs on a human and cause them to double check what's in front of them.

a_square_peg 5y ago
Yeah, I think this is really fascinating and challenging aspect of AI and self-driving. We have a model of the world in our brain and we're constantly evaluating what ought to be there or not and checking consistency between all the sensory information we receive but don't think AI is quite there yet.
- animal_spirits 5y ago
  I think that in our constantly changing world AI will never be able to "catch up" with us. It might be able to have some ability to "catch up" to where humans are now, but that will take many decades, and by that point there will be new obstructions and different things to watch out for and it will need new training again. I have an intuition that these machines will always be lagging behind. But maybe I'm wrong.
  - mbg721 5y ago
    There's a legitimate fear that AI will be just good enough to be the scapegoat for bad or lazy decisions that devastate people's lives. To some extent that's already here, but imagine widespread drone policing, social credit, or nanny-state appliances.
    - animal_spirits 5y ago
      Yeah. There's no justice system for computer programs.
      - mbg721 5y ago
        There is; we find and prosecute their human creators if they commit a crime. Every intermediate step is just smoke and mirrors. You wouldn't say, "Well, we can't charge the gun with anything..."
        animal_spirits 5y ago
        While theoretically that would be the best solution but I don't imagine it working in practice. No one was sentenced to jail for manslaughter or homicide for the Boeing 737 MAX failures. Company gets fined -> lower level less wealthy employees get laid off -> execs retain wealth & start a new company