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The slightly less cynical view is that Wikileaks doesn't meet the bar for journalistic integrity and responsible disclosure. Wikileaks takes far less care with

The slightly less cynical view is that Wikileaks doesn't meet the bar for journalistic integrity and responsible disclosure. Wikileaks takes far less care with vetting classified documents than for example Glenn Greenwald did with the documents Snowden provided.

stillbourne 5y ago
This. I thought Wikileaks was an important endeavor and Julian Assange should be protected right up until he released "Collateral Murder." All he had to do was release the audio and video undoctored, it was damning enough in the raw. But the moment he decided to jazz it up with sound effects and music he lost all integrity. Ever since then Julian Assange's Wikileaks has only released "curated" information that he felt fits his narrative. The original Wikileaks was nothing like that, it was just that a wiki of leaks. I still think the original Wikileaks has a place in this world, but Julian Assange's Wikileaks is horseshit and I don't care if he gets arrested.
- CogitoCogito 5y ago
  > Ever since then Julian Assange's Wikileaks has only released "curated" information that he felt fits his narrative. Sounds to me like essentially every news organization ever.
  - stillbourne 5y ago
    > Sounds to me like essentially every news organization ever. There is a thing called journalistic integrity, it does exist and is practiced. It is also something Assange completely lacks.
    - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
      > There is a thing called journalistic integrity, it does exist and is practiced. Trust in the media is at an all time low, mainly because many (not all) "journalists" threw integrity out the window in favor of activism.
joshuajill 5y ago
Wasn't it actually the Guardian that published in a book the password to a circulating archive of secret information? It was the Diplomatic Cables if I'm not mistaken. Talking about responsible disclosure.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  Also the Reality Winner incident > She was detained even before The Intercept published the article that was based upon the leaks.
sonotathrowaway 5y ago
It also is highly selective of the documents it publishes - his policy of “radical transparency” didn’t survive the TV deal he signed with Russian state media, and proof that he suppressed whistleblowers evidence of Russian involvement in the Syrian civil war was met with outright retaliatory threats against those who deigned to report on it.

stillbourne 5y ago

This. I thought Wikileaks was an important endeavor and Julian Assange should be protected right up until he released "Collateral Murder." All he had to do was release the audio and video undoctored, it was damning enough in the raw. But the moment he decided to jazz it up with sound effects and music he lost all integrity. Ever since then Julian Assange's Wikileaks has only released "curated" information that he felt fits his narrative. The original Wikileaks was nothing like that, it was just that a wiki of leaks. I still think the original Wikileaks has a place in this world, but Julian Assange's Wikileaks is horseshit and I don't care if he gets arrested.

CogitoCogito 5y ago
> Ever since then Julian Assange's Wikileaks has only released "curated" information that he felt fits his narrative. Sounds to me like essentially every news organization ever.
- stillbourne 5y ago
  > Sounds to me like essentially every news organization ever. There is a thing called journalistic integrity, it does exist and is practiced. It is also something Assange completely lacks.
  - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
    > There is a thing called journalistic integrity, it does exist and is practiced. Trust in the media is at an all time low, mainly because many (not all) "journalists" threw integrity out the window in favor of activism.

joshuajill 5y ago

Wasn't it actually the Guardian that published in a book the password to a circulating archive of secret information? It was the Diplomatic Cables if I'm not mistaken. Talking about responsible disclosure.

formerly_proven 5y ago
Also the Reality Winner incident > She was detained even before The Intercept published the article that was based upon the leaks.

sonotathrowaway 5y ago

It also is highly selective of the documents it publishes - his policy of “radical transparency” didn’t survive the TV deal he signed with Russian state media, and proof that he suppressed whistleblowers evidence of Russian involvement in the Syrian civil war was met with outright retaliatory threats against those who deigned to report on it.