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>I have seen people struggling to breathe through lungs that have hardened to near uselessness, begging us in their ignorance to give them the vaccine now. I r

>I have seen people struggling to breathe through lungs that have hardened to near uselessness, begging us in their ignorance to give them the vaccine now. I really have trouble believing that this isn't just a propaganda meme. What proportion of the population actually believes that a vaccine will cure them post infection? More importantly, how are all of these people uttering vaccine requests when their lungs are failing? Isn't it a little hard to talk when you're in the end stage of a severe lung infection? Linking these unvaccinated deaths to qanon conspiracists in the second sentence further makes me doubt that this is an actual doctor reporting on their experience. This is reddit, after all, a heavily astroturfed (and opaquely controlled) propaganda machine.

indrora 5y ago
Have several friends in healthcare. Multiple have relayed similar stories. However, to your question: how many of these people are begging for the vaccine, and how? It's a surprising number. These patients don't understand how vaccines work outside of movies and TV, and as such think it's either bullshit or at the last minute feel like it's a miracle. Because at the end of the road, you realize that you've been told lies by those you trusted. There's a clarity in the end moments. Situations like these where you have no choice but to think about what you've been told and the ramifications of your actions. And so these people fall back on the last thing that wasn't at least blatantly false, which is a social understanding of medicine. Vaccines cure diseases, or so we're told in our school days. So much of the American medical psyche is built around medicine being a solution for the current ailment, not a prophylactic for the likely future. A huge part of the antivax rhetoric is "but I'm healthy now". They don't see it as preventing illness in the future. To them a vaccine is an antidote, a fix for a problem. And so they beg for the antidote when it is obvious that they are at the end of the line. They don't understand that it's not a fix for now, it's prevention for later. As for how they can: function degrades, yes, but its biggest impact is on duty cycle. You go from being able to talk constantly to mustering enough energy to speak a few minutes at a time to making it 30 seconds, to 4...5 seconds, to losing it entirely. You get bursts of energy, but each burst comes with a toll. Maybe a few more moments here but a long delay as you recover from it.
lemmsjid 5y ago
You don’t have to look far to find similar stories on the public record. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/22/us-coronavirus-covid-unvaccinated-hospital-rates-vaccines https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/22/us-coronavir... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patients-covid-19-vaccine/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patie... https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/health/coronavirus/dying-covid-patients-begging-area-doctors-for-the-vaccine-with-their-final-breaths/amp/ https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/health/coronavirus/dying-covid-p...
iLoveOncall 5y ago
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indrora 5y ago

Have several friends in healthcare. Multiple have relayed similar stories. However, to your question: how many of these people are begging for the vaccine, and how? It's a surprising number. These patients don't understand how vaccines work outside of movies and TV, and as such think it's either bullshit or at the last minute feel like it's a miracle. Because at the end of the road, you realize that you've been told lies by those you trusted. There's a clarity in the end moments. Situations like these where you have no choice but to think about what you've been told and the ramifications of your actions. And so these people fall back on the last thing that wasn't at least blatantly false, which is a social understanding of medicine. Vaccines cure diseases, or so we're told in our school days. So much of the American medical psyche is built around medicine being a solution for the current ailment, not a prophylactic for the likely future. A huge part of the antivax rhetoric is "but I'm healthy now". They don't see it as preventing illness in the future. To them a vaccine is an antidote, a fix for a problem. And so they beg for the antidote when it is obvious that they are at the end of the line. They don't understand that it's not a fix for now, it's prevention for later. As for how they can: function degrades, yes, but its biggest impact is on duty cycle. You go from being able to talk constantly to mustering enough energy to speak a few minutes at a time to making it 30 seconds, to 4...5 seconds, to losing it entirely. You get bursts of energy, but each burst comes with a toll. Maybe a few more moments here but a long delay as you recover from it.

lemmsjid 5y ago

You don’t have to look far to find similar stories on the public record. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/22/us-coronavirus-covid-unvaccinated-hospital-rates-vaccines https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/22/us-coronavir... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patients-covid-19-vaccine/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patie... https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/health/coronavirus/dying-covid-patients-begging-area-doctors-for-the-vaccine-with-their-final-breaths/amp/ https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/health/coronavirus/dying-covid-p...

iLoveOncall 5y ago

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