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If it works for 5% of people it is by definition not useless. Bariatric surgery is not without its risks, and I would rather weed out the 5% who respond to the

• cm2012 5y ago
  5% is really generous in the data I've seen and posted above, and I've never seen any positive data on just advice. Maybe the data on what happens if you call your patients weak willed losers would surprise us all, but I doubt it.
  • oaktrout 5y ago
    The data you posted shows that the average person was able to maintain about 7lbs of weight loss without surgery, so it's definitely more than 5%*. Also, who is saying we are calling patients weak willed losers? Should we not tell patients to stop smoking, or to quit heroin, because they might think that we think of them as "weak willed losers"? *edit for ambiguous wording: By this I mean it seems to work for at least 50% of people, with the average being 3% weight loss.
    • cm2012 5y ago
      The data shows 3% average for the best case scenario fitness regime they found as far as I can read. For the weak willed comment, that was a reference to Pizza234's comment I was responding to earlier, not yours.
      • oaktrout 5y ago
        The 3% from the meta analysis above was not for a single "best case scenario fitness regime". It was a number calculated by pooling data from ~28 studies with varied methodologies. A significant portion of those studies employed dietary changes alone (no fitness regime).
• jnwatson 5y ago
  Bariatric surgery patients almost universally have tried several other treatments before they try surgery.