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Who knows if this specific story is true or not, and I'm just a random anonymous user so $0.02 more on the pile, but I have a family member who's been a hospita

Who knows if this specific story is true or not, and I'm just a random anonymous user so $0.02 more on the pile, but I have a family member who's been a hospitalist for 40 years... Their experience basically mirrors this up until the assault. According to them, they've never had so many patients and family members fight them for every single decision they make -- they're bringing in all these ridiculous printouts about "give me these vitamins and steroids on this schedule" and of course they want HCQ and IVM still. None of them will accept responsibility for not being vaccinated, they blame the medical staff when they don't get better like they think they should, they all see intubation as the step that kills their loved ones instead of a last chance to save them.. it's enough that my family member is retiring rather than deal with it any more. My family member works at a small hospital in the Midwest and more than one patient has accused them of "working with Dr. Fauci" to prolong the pandemic. Just complete nutball bullshit. All of the quacks promoting these horrible "cures" while convincing millions of people to not get vaccinated should lose their licenses. I doubt there will ever be any consequences for the non-credentialed talking heads doing the same but man have they inflicted a massive amount of suffering on their viewers. I hope the culture war was worth the weight on their consciences.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
Honestly, what has been exceedingly scary to me in the past couple years is how tribalism in the US has gotten to such extremes that people are now willing to actually die instead of admit they were wrong. I mean, sure, the ease with which people have decided they can argue against easily demonstrable facts over the past 5-10 years has been unsettling, but I thought when push came to shove, and their lives and their loved ones' lives were on the lines, people would come around. But a sizable portion of the country is now in a full-on death cult. And to be clear, I can understand there are plenty of things about the pandemic and the pandemic response that can be debated, but a huge portion of the country is miles off the deep end into full on crazyville. Even Trump was loudly booed recently when he said he got a booster.
- avidiax 5y ago
  I think the headstrong tribalism has been around forever. The difference is that now it's being headstrong about matters that are both life & death and unavoidable in daily life. Somebody the vehemently believes that the rapture is coming and the Earth is 3,000 years old rarely gets a reason to punch anyone over such beliefs. Trump publicly announcing that he got a booster made me respect him more. He could have (and politically should have) kept silent.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago

Honestly, what has been exceedingly scary to me in the past couple years is how tribalism in the US has gotten to such extremes that people are now willing to actually die instead of admit they were wrong. I mean, sure, the ease with which people have decided they can argue against easily demonstrable facts over the past 5-10 years has been unsettling, but I thought when push came to shove, and their lives and their loved ones' lives were on the lines, people would come around. But a sizable portion of the country is now in a full-on death cult. And to be clear, I can understand there are plenty of things about the pandemic and the pandemic response that can be debated, but a huge portion of the country is miles off the deep end into full on crazyville. Even Trump was loudly booed recently when he said he got a booster.

avidiax 5y ago
I think the headstrong tribalism has been around forever. The difference is that now it's being headstrong about matters that are both life & death and unavoidable in daily life. Somebody the vehemently believes that the rapture is coming and the Earth is 3,000 years old rarely gets a reason to punch anyone over such beliefs. Trump publicly announcing that he got a booster made me respect him more. He could have (and politically should have) kept silent.