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Yes because the target for both businesses is young and optionless women. Those details help people sympathize with the women, and it seems like OF models are o

Yes because the target for both businesses is young and optionless women. Those details help people sympathize with the women, and it seems like OF models are operating with more autonomy but I suspect many models will regret posting online in the long run. These businesses tend to implode once enough of the models go public with their regret.

lazide 5y ago
All I can say is - wow. Many OF women do have many other options - but they make a ton on onlyfans and it’s a lot less work. Most fully understand the trade offs and are fine with it. This case is radically different, involving massive fraud and deceit, among other crimes. But keep pretending women are clueless and have no agency of their own I guess?
- goldenchrome 5y ago
  I don't appreciate your passive aggression. I don't think women are clueless or have no agency but I am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. It's a normal part of growing up but posting your nudes online is a particularly difficult one since it's hard to take back. There are many potential ramifications to your social life, your professional life, and your psychic life. I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live, so I think the people who do it will ultimately feel negative about it in the end.
  - UncleMeat 5y ago
    This case is not about people doing porn and regretting it. It is about fraud, blackmail, exploitation, and even rape. The “people need to think twice before posting nudes” whinging has nothing to do with the crime committed here.
  - bionsystem 5y ago
    > am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. True but that would be the case for most things including YT, FB, and much much more. I guess (I haven't look into it) that OF has a legal setup that's pretty clear about responsibility. After all, those woman are adults. > I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live Well, it is VERY profitable. And I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race.
    - stirfish 5y ago
      > I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
  - lazide 5y ago
    I’m pretty sure passive aggressive is pretending to be supportive but not - which I’m pretty sure I wasn’t. Saying everyone who participates in OF is in the same boat as women who were actively blackmailed by clear lies and fraudulent claims, and that everyone who does it has no idea of the ramifications and is being exploited in the same way is treating them like children with no idea of the ramifications of their actions. Which is denying they can make rational choices and trade offs, and have agency in making their decisions and accepting their consequences. If a man went into manual labor or the trades rather than going to college, would you make the same statement? And compare them to someone blackmailed or forced into physical labor as a slave? Because those are much closer comparisons than most would admit. Both have similar long term social, and physical consequences (different in details but not consequences). Manual labor doesn’t pay well though.

lazide 5y ago

All I can say is - wow. Many OF women do have many other options - but they make a ton on onlyfans and it’s a lot less work. Most fully understand the trade offs and are fine with it. This case is radically different, involving massive fraud and deceit, among other crimes. But keep pretending women are clueless and have no agency of their own I guess?

goldenchrome 5y ago
I don't appreciate your passive aggression. I don't think women are clueless or have no agency but I am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. It's a normal part of growing up but posting your nudes online is a particularly difficult one since it's hard to take back. There are many potential ramifications to your social life, your professional life, and your psychic life. I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live, so I think the people who do it will ultimately feel negative about it in the end.
- UncleMeat 5y ago
  This case is not about people doing porn and regretting it. It is about fraud, blackmail, exploitation, and even rape. The “people need to think twice before posting nudes” whinging has nothing to do with the crime committed here.
- bionsystem 5y ago
  > am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. True but that would be the case for most things including YT, FB, and much much more. I guess (I haven't look into it) that OF has a legal setup that's pretty clear about responsibility. After all, those woman are adults. > I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live Well, it is VERY profitable. And I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race.
  - stirfish 5y ago
    > I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
- lazide 5y ago
  I’m pretty sure passive aggressive is pretending to be supportive but not - which I’m pretty sure I wasn’t. Saying everyone who participates in OF is in the same boat as women who were actively blackmailed by clear lies and fraudulent claims, and that everyone who does it has no idea of the ramifications and is being exploited in the same way is treating them like children with no idea of the ramifications of their actions. Which is denying they can make rational choices and trade offs, and have agency in making their decisions and accepting their consequences. If a man went into manual labor or the trades rather than going to college, would you make the same statement? And compare them to someone blackmailed or forced into physical labor as a slave? Because those are much closer comparisons than most would admit. Both have similar long term social, and physical consequences (different in details but not consequences). Manual labor doesn’t pay well though.