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Found the interview: [1] > The thing is that this is not a good design (the 555). I had a few years of experience, I’d say about five years, but I had no teac
by scottlamb 5y ago
Found the interview: [1]
> The thing is that this is not a good design (the 555). I had a few years of experience, I’d say about five years, but I had no teacher, and I had to learn it by myself.
> You know it was really the beginning of design, so looking at it now, I would say “I wouldn’t do it like that again”. But nobody has actually changed it - it is still the same. They have shrunk it, they shrunk the dimensions. It was a 10 micrometer design, that was the standard size. You could make it in four (micrometers) now. This is more die per wafer, but nobody has changed the arrangement or the schematic.
> As a timer, you know, you trigger it and it runs for a certain time, it is very good. It has a temperature coefficient of like 23 parts per million. Over a large temperature range, that’s like .1 %. Its very stable. In free running mode, as an oscillator, its not so good, about 150 parts per million. And that you could improve down to about 10 ppm. So you could make an improved product. I’m amazed and stunned that in 30 years, somebody hasn’t looked at the schematic and said, “I can make this better”, so for the same area and same cost, and then they have a better product. Nobody has done that.
[1] http://www.semiconductormuseum.com/Transistors/LectureHall/Camenzind/Camenzind_Page9.htm http://www.semiconductormuseum.com/Transistors/LectureHall/C...
- hulitu 5y agoOf course he could make it better. Everybody can. The issue is if it makes sense. The only engineering science where improving something is (stil) cheap is SW. Although SW seems to be cursed and almost every improvement they make is a complete redesign. 555 is a cheap signal generator. It is very good at what he does. When you need a better one you can have a uC ( which you need to program and test) or a synthetiser ( which is more expensive). No need to thrash it just because it is old.
- scottlamb 5y agoEh, he said it could be improved for the same area and (per-unit) cost, and I trust he knew what he was talking about. Amortized across all the number of units sold, the redesign cost is very little with modern methods. I enjoyed reading the interview. Besides this snippet, he talked about how modern design differs from back when he made the 555. It's always super impressive to me when someone keeps up with their craft through such huge technological changes.