I know there will be a lot of comments about how "A good manager can do wonders". No one denies this. The problem is that the industry is rife with bad manager

I know there will be a lot of comments about how "A good manager can do wonders". No one denies this. The problem is that the industry is rife with bad managers who only care about themselves instead of the actual producers of output. Truly surprising to see how many managers overestimate their role so much without producing any value. Managers should be paid less than ICs and should really only be assistants to ICs (especially if ICs are syncing with product, marketing and doing all non engineering work anyway). The manager is only a paper pusher at this point.