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> admitting that as part of a premeditated scheme, Garcia recruited victims to appear in sex videos for the websites by promising them that these videos would n

> admitting that as part of a premeditated scheme, Garcia recruited victims to appear in sex videos for the websites by promising them that these videos would never be posted online, that the videos would never be released in the United States, and that no one who knew the women would ever find out about the videos. > Throughout the scheme, Garcia knew these representations were false > Garcia and Pratt created Craigslist advertisements, along with fake websites and email addresses consistent with the websites to cause their victims to believe that they were applying to work asclothed models. > When victims expressed hesitation, Garcia directed other young women to contact the victims and falsely reassure them that the videos would not be posted online and that none of the victims’ friends, families, colleagues or classmates would find out. > Garcia knew that most of the young women they were recruiting would have never agreed to appear in a video if they knew that videos of their explicit sexual activity would be posted on the internet and marketed to their friends and family. > If one of the victims agreed to act in the pornographic video, Garcia and his co-conspirators promptly booked flights to San Diego within a day or two to limit the chances that the victim would change her mind. > After the victim arrived at the hotel or short-term rental unit, Garcia would continue to falsely assure them that the videos would not be posted online and that no one who knew the victims would see > Garcia and others would at times coerce victims into completing the videos once they were underway. Garcia and other co-conspirators threatened to sue the victims, cancel flights home, and post the videos online, if the victims did not complete the sex videos. > The sex for the video shoots was rough and caused many victims pain, and in some cases bleeding. Some victims asked to stop filming. In response, Garcia and others told the victims that they had to continue and finish the videos. Victims were also often paid significantly less than originally promised So, after all that, do you really think GDP and OnlyFans are comparable?

goldenchrome 5y ago
Yes because the target for both businesses is young and optionless women. Those details help people sympathize with the women, and it seems like OF models are operating with more autonomy but I suspect many models will regret posting online in the long run. These businesses tend to implode once enough of the models go public with their regret.
- lazide 5y ago
  All I can say is - wow. Many OF women do have many other options - but they make a ton on onlyfans and it’s a lot less work. Most fully understand the trade offs and are fine with it. This case is radically different, involving massive fraud and deceit, among other crimes. But keep pretending women are clueless and have no agency of their own I guess?
  - goldenchrome 5y ago
    I don't appreciate your passive aggression. I don't think women are clueless or have no agency but I am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. It's a normal part of growing up but posting your nudes online is a particularly difficult one since it's hard to take back. There are many potential ramifications to your social life, your professional life, and your psychic life. I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live, so I think the people who do it will ultimately feel negative about it in the end.
    - UncleMeat 5y ago
      This case is not about people doing porn and regretting it. It is about fraud, blackmail, exploitation, and even rape. The “people need to think twice before posting nudes” whinging has nothing to do with the crime committed here.
    - bionsystem 5y ago
      > am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. True but that would be the case for most things including YT, FB, and much much more. I guess (I haven't look into it) that OF has a legal setup that's pretty clear about responsibility. After all, those woman are adults. > I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live Well, it is VERY profitable. And I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race.
      - stirfish 5y ago

goldenchrome 5y ago

Yes because the target for both businesses is young and optionless women. Those details help people sympathize with the women, and it seems like OF models are operating with more autonomy but I suspect many models will regret posting online in the long run. These businesses tend to implode once enough of the models go public with their regret.

lazide 5y ago
All I can say is - wow. Many OF women do have many other options - but they make a ton on onlyfans and it’s a lot less work. Most fully understand the trade offs and are fine with it. This case is radically different, involving massive fraud and deceit, among other crimes. But keep pretending women are clueless and have no agency of their own I guess?
- goldenchrome 5y ago
  I don't appreciate your passive aggression. I don't think women are clueless or have no agency but I am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. It's a normal part of growing up but posting your nudes online is a particularly difficult one since it's hard to take back. There are many potential ramifications to your social life, your professional life, and your psychic life. I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live, so I think the people who do it will ultimately feel negative about it in the end.
  - UncleMeat 5y ago
    This case is not about people doing porn and regretting it. It is about fraud, blackmail, exploitation, and even rape. The “people need to think twice before posting nudes” whinging has nothing to do with the crime committed here.
  - bionsystem 5y ago
    > am aware that young people often make mistakes that they later regret. True but that would be the case for most things including YT, FB, and much much more. I guess (I haven't look into it) that OF has a legal setup that's pretty clear about responsibility. After all, those woman are adults. > I don't think that posting your nudes online for money is a sustainable way to live Well, it is VERY profitable. And I even wish I could do that instead of running the rat race.
    - stirfish 5y ago