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I am not sure I fully agree, but the quality of the job really depends on the employer. Italy is characterized by _lots_ of small/medium sized businesses (not

I am not sure I fully agree, but the quality of the job really depends on the employer. Italy is characterized by _lots_ of small/medium sized businesses (not startups, actual profitable businesses often decades old). Some of them producing state-of-the-art tech in many different industries (Aerospace, Defense, Pharma, etc). The issue with this highly fragmented industrial environment is that it might be difficult to know what it is like to actually work somewhere before spending some time there. Companies tends to be unique. There are also offices from all the well known names (Google etc...), but usually these are sales oriented. I'd still call them "tech jobs" though. About Visas, as an Italian citizen I don't have direct experience. I suspect it might be difficult to get one. Of course EU citizens can do what they want. There might be (relatively) easy paths to citizenship for people with italian ancestry though.

mmarq 5y ago
Small and medium sized employers are very bad places to work. The Italian definition of small company is one with less than 15 employees, these companies avoid much regulations and practically employ at-will, when they don’t use temporary contracts. A company is considered large if it employs more than 50 people. An Italian medium sized company, would be considered small everywhere else. In small and medium sized companies, salaries are extremely low, unpaid overtime is the norm and career progression is close to impossible. They are usually family-run, and the only way to progress is to marry the son/daughter of the owner. They can't hire competent people because they can’t afford to pay what abroad would be the salary of an entry level engineer and working conditions are so bad that everybody who can joins large or foreign companies or becomes a public servant, so they can’t work on anything serious, in lack of a better word, and often end up being a sort of expensive Amazon Turk for larger companies.

mmarq 5y ago

Small and medium sized employers are very bad places to work. The Italian definition of small company is one with less than 15 employees, these companies avoid much regulations and practically employ at-will, when they don’t use temporary contracts. A company is considered large if it employs more than 50 people. An Italian medium sized company, would be considered small everywhere else. In small and medium sized companies, salaries are extremely low, unpaid overtime is the norm and career progression is close to impossible. They are usually family-run, and the only way to progress is to marry the son/daughter of the owner. They can't hire competent people because they can’t afford to pay what abroad would be the salary of an entry level engineer and working conditions are so bad that everybody who can joins large or foreign companies or becomes a public servant, so they can’t work on anything serious, in lack of a better word, and often end up being a sort of expensive Amazon Turk for larger companies.