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All people are OK with such setup. It was shared decision of the team, not just management sitting up in their high castle and issuing a decree. It's a small co

All people are OK with such setup. It was shared decision of the team, not just management sitting up in their high castle and issuing a decree. It's a small company with less than 20 total employees and most "executives" still write code. I am writing those posts now, when a long processing pipeline is running. I think that most people, who are strongly against hybrid work just have to live in a miserable place like SF for their good software engineering job. It's unfortunate that so many software companies are in the Bay Area with one of the worst real estate markets in the world, horrible commute times and drug/homelessness crisis. I used to work there for a few years and if I still did I also would probably advocate hard for the fully-remote work. Most of people in our company are happily living close to the office for other reasons that just the job, so coming to the office is not an issue. My friend, who still works in SF recently came to visit Warsaw, Poland (where our engineering office is located) and jokingly said "funnily coming from SF to Warsaw feels like coming from a third world country to a first world country".

mint2 5y ago
> I think that most people, who are strongly against hybrid work just have to live in a miserable place like SF for their good software engineering job. It's unfortunate that so many software companies are in the Bay Area with one of the worst real estate markets in the world, horrible commute times and drug/homelessness crisis. Woah there, if you’re not actually from SF please lay off repeating third hand tropes. Just like hybrid work is great for some, I’m a fan, but others do best with wfh, Some people love sf and it’s nowhere near as bad as the stereotypes claim. (Except the tenderloin and immediate vicinity) There’s a reason people would live SF and take buses an hour south to Silicon Valley rather than living in Sunnyvale or Mountain View. Personally I’m actually moving to SF despite my ability to wfh, I’d rather do hybrid and live in sf.
kreeben 5y ago
>> not just management sitting up in their high castle and issuing a decree That's great to hear. >> In remote-only setting, everything requires setting up a meeting. That often formalizes everything, and less things end up being discussed. That is something that can be worked on though, don't you think? We should be able to improve that bit of the "remote working" thing, I feel. I'm currently with a client that has the type of problems that pretty much demands of me that I, or the PM in my team, responds to their chats within the minute. That means I have to keep an eye on the notifications all the time. That takes a bit of a toll on me, I have to say. But it's manageable. Perhaps a devastating failure happens in production that we need to resolve as quickly as possible. First the client chats me up. Then we realize we need more info so we invite another person into the chat. Then we go video. We all turn our cameras on and we talk freely until we realize, we need top dog to approve emergency deployment of Very Important Patch, so we invite them and get their clearance and then we rock'n'roll. I think we just simply need to become very good at remote communication, for this new world (that I day dream about) to become reality. And that's not easy. But just because it's not easy shouldn't be enough to scare us away from it.

mint2 5y ago

> I think that most people, who are strongly against hybrid work just have to live in a miserable place like SF for their good software engineering job. It's unfortunate that so many software companies are in the Bay Area with one of the worst real estate markets in the world, horrible commute times and drug/homelessness crisis. Woah there, if you’re not actually from SF please lay off repeating third hand tropes. Just like hybrid work is great for some, I’m a fan, but others do best with wfh, Some people love sf and it’s nowhere near as bad as the stereotypes claim. (Except the tenderloin and immediate vicinity) There’s a reason people would live SF and take buses an hour south to Silicon Valley rather than living in Sunnyvale or Mountain View. Personally I’m actually moving to SF despite my ability to wfh, I’d rather do hybrid and live in sf.

kreeben 5y ago

>> not just management sitting up in their high castle and issuing a decree That's great to hear. >> In remote-only setting, everything requires setting up a meeting. That often formalizes everything, and less things end up being discussed. That is something that can be worked on though, don't you think? We should be able to improve that bit of the "remote working" thing, I feel. I'm currently with a client that has the type of problems that pretty much demands of me that I, or the PM in my team, responds to their chats within the minute. That means I have to keep an eye on the notifications all the time. That takes a bit of a toll on me, I have to say. But it's manageable. Perhaps a devastating failure happens in production that we need to resolve as quickly as possible. First the client chats me up. Then we realize we need more info so we invite another person into the chat. Then we go video. We all turn our cameras on and we talk freely until we realize, we need top dog to approve emergency deployment of Very Important Patch, so we invite them and get their clearance and then we rock'n'roll. I think we just simply need to become very good at remote communication, for this new world (that I day dream about) to become reality. And that's not easy. But just because it's not easy shouldn't be enough to scare us away from it.