> the key difference is that the dev teams are the ones who are using the production management tools, not the sysops team. That doesn't make your team a devop

> the key difference is that the dev teams are the ones who are using the production management tools, not the sysops team. That doesn't make your team a devops team. The devs are in fact the devops team. Engineer is ostensibly a better title so, because reasons, the engineers are just calling themselves engineers. What you're doing is really internal tooling, dev tooling, infra, prod, those kind of team names.