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I agree that there are problems that should be debated, solutions proposed, agreed on and implemented. What I disagree on are: 1. That a revolution would help

I agree that there are problems that should be debated, solutions proposed, agreed on and implemented. What I disagree on are: 1. That a revolution would help the above process occur (namely solutions proposed/agreed on specifically). Just governance is about balance and this is incredibly hard to achieve in a vacuum if history is our guide. 2. That the problems are insurmountable. This depends on what insurmountable means. I mean that we can make progress on these issues over time using the framework of constitutional democracy. States as recently as 2018 [1] have moved towards ranked based voting. 3. That slavery is part of our constitution. 160 years ago they fought a bitter war that culminated in the outlaw of slavery. Are you arguing for reparations? That's very different from saying that slavery is baked into the constitution. [1] https://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/upcoming/rankedchoicefaq.html https://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/upcoming/rankedchoicefaq....

sofixa 5y ago
Regarding 1, in my personal opinion the status quo seems way too entrenched. As you mention in 2, bandaids are being applied ( ranked choice voting is better than first past the post, but doesn't really fix most of the issues with US elections like gerrymandering, winner take all elections, dual party system, electoral college, unlimited campaign funding, etc.). The two parties and "establishment" have very little interest in changing things fundamentally. Slavery is still allowed today, as punishment for a crime. The 3/5s count for stuff like the electoral college and number of house of representatives seats is still there. I'm not arguing for reparations, I think that's a whole huge debate of itself I'm not really qualified to participate in (I'm neither American nor a descendant of a slave ( more akin to colonial subjects, so quite different). And please note, when i say revolution, I don't mean a bloody armed uprising or anything of the like, just a sudden movement for massive change. It could be brought on by a sweeping electoral victory by a reformist party, be brought upon by protests and strikes, or anything of the like.

sofixa 5y ago

Regarding 1, in my personal opinion the status quo seems way too entrenched. As you mention in 2, bandaids are being applied ( ranked choice voting is better than first past the post, but doesn't really fix most of the issues with US elections like gerrymandering, winner take all elections, dual party system, electoral college, unlimited campaign funding, etc.). The two parties and "establishment" have very little interest in changing things fundamentally. Slavery is still allowed today, as punishment for a crime. The 3/5s count for stuff like the electoral college and number of house of representatives seats is still there. I'm not arguing for reparations, I think that's a whole huge debate of itself I'm not really qualified to participate in (I'm neither American nor a descendant of a slave ( more akin to colonial subjects, so quite different). And please note, when i say revolution, I don't mean a bloody armed uprising or anything of the like, just a sudden movement for massive change. It could be brought on by a sweeping electoral victory by a reformist party, be brought upon by protests and strikes, or anything of the like.