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The main reason I miss the office: Meeting my workmates regularly. I want the ability to go to the office most days, while having the opportunity to take a cou

The main reason I miss the office: Meeting my workmates regularly. I want the ability to go to the office most days, while having the opportunity to take a couple of days a week from home. If it wasn't for open floor plans, I'd prefer to go to the office every day.

FredPret 5y ago
I’m the opposite. Even though I’m an extrovert and love people, I so excited to never have to meet a colleague in person again.
- ghaff 5y ago
  That seems... extreme. I'm fully remote but I love getting together with peers (both co-workers and otherwise), quite a few of whom are genuine personal friends to greater or lesser degrees, at occasional company meetings and at events.
  - bluepizza 5y ago
    Both you seem… normal. Neither positions are unreasonable. Consider that OP’s personality could be very different from yours - maybe they have a very strong and closed circle of established friendships, or a preference to keep the personal life unattached from the professional life. Who knows! But it’s not extreme.
    - bradlys 5y ago
      Being excited to never meet a colleague in person again is definitely an extreme. It is 100% abnormal. Please don’t act like someone who claims to be extroverted but suddenly is like - “yeah, my colleagues? Fuck those dudes. I hope I never see them in person! Thank baby Jesus!” Short of working at only toxic companies - this is really abnormal behavior. No one I know who is extroverted, isn’t live or die by FIRE, and works with good people wants to be WFH forever and never see a colleague in person again. “Ah, yeah, I spend 40+ hours a week with these people and they’re great people and I love people but fuuuuuuck them.” Nope - doesn’t add up. Try again!
      - FredPret 5y ago
        I’m so sorry I don’t meet your lofty standards of colleague-love. Now imagine if you and I happened to work for the same company, and had cubicles next to each other. Wouldn’t it be nicer to spend those 40 hours working next to the people you love? Why forced socialization with people you don’t get to pick?
  - ok_dad 5y ago
    > That seems... extreme So does going into an office 5 days a week, or even 2-3, for jobs that don't need to be in office, but no one says that. Maybe we could all agree that this will take a decade or more to shake out, and not just take the (little c) conservative view that we need to immediately cease remote work because of small issues of coordination? Eventually, something in the middle will become the new normal, but for now let's not try to force one thing or the other.
    - snovv_crash 5y ago
      Your job isn't just technical though, I'm guessing. There's also a component of teamwork, collaboration, coordination, handovers, coaching etc, all of which I've found are much easier to do in-person than over a video call. For me what works is 1-2 days per week in the office to get all the admin done, and the rest at home getting real work done.
    - ghaff 5y ago
      >So does going into an office 5 days a week, or even 2-3, for jobs that don't need to be in office, but no one says that. Depends on the circumstances but, sure, I'll say that. I do think never wanting to see your co-workers--even, say, a couple times a year is atypical.

FredPret 5y ago

I’m the opposite. Even though I’m an extrovert and love people, I so excited to never have to meet a colleague in person again.

ghaff 5y ago
That seems... extreme. I'm fully remote but I love getting together with peers (both co-workers and otherwise), quite a few of whom are genuine personal friends to greater or lesser degrees, at occasional company meetings and at events.
- bluepizza 5y ago
  Both you seem… normal. Neither positions are unreasonable. Consider that OP’s personality could be very different from yours - maybe they have a very strong and closed circle of established friendships, or a preference to keep the personal life unattached from the professional life. Who knows! But it’s not extreme.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    Being excited to never meet a colleague in person again is definitely an extreme. It is 100% abnormal. Please don’t act like someone who claims to be extroverted but suddenly is like - “yeah, my colleagues? Fuck those dudes. I hope I never see them in person! Thank baby Jesus!” Short of working at only toxic companies - this is really abnormal behavior. No one I know who is extroverted, isn’t live or die by FIRE, and works with good people wants to be WFH forever and never see a colleague in person again. “Ah, yeah, I spend 40+ hours a week with these people and they’re great people and I love people but fuuuuuuck them.” Nope - doesn’t add up. Try again!
    - FredPret 5y ago
      I’m so sorry I don’t meet your lofty standards of colleague-love. Now imagine if you and I happened to work for the same company, and had cubicles next to each other. Wouldn’t it be nicer to spend those 40 hours working next to the people you love? Why forced socialization with people you don’t get to pick?
- ok_dad 5y ago
  > That seems... extreme So does going into an office 5 days a week, or even 2-3, for jobs that don't need to be in office, but no one says that. Maybe we could all agree that this will take a decade or more to shake out, and not just take the (little c) conservative view that we need to immediately cease remote work because of small issues of coordination? Eventually, something in the middle will become the new normal, but for now let's not try to force one thing or the other.
  - snovv_crash 5y ago
    Your job isn't just technical though, I'm guessing. There's also a component of teamwork, collaboration, coordination, handovers, coaching etc, all of which I've found are much easier to do in-person than over a video call. For me what works is 1-2 days per week in the office to get all the admin done, and the rest at home getting real work done.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    >So does going into an office 5 days a week, or even 2-3, for jobs that don't need to be in office, but no one says that. Depends on the circumstances but, sure, I'll say that. I do think never wanting to see your co-workers--even, say, a couple times a year is atypical.