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How is everyone moving and also moving somewhere better? Is it not the case that the majority of open job opportunities are ones other people have recently left

How is everyone moving and also moving somewhere better? Is it not the case that the majority of open job opportunities are ones other people have recently left from unhappiness?

zippergz 5y ago
I think there's a lot of "grass is greener" moves happening. Unless you have trusted friends working in a company, it is very hard to tell if it actually is better than your current situation until you've tried it. None of the sources of information available to an outsider (including Glassdoor reviews and HN posts extolling the virtues or sounding off about the horribleness of a given company) are particularly predictive of what your individual experience will be, from what I have seen. There's just too much variability, and too much bias in each narrator.
- nijave 5y ago
  Not only that, jobs seem to have a "honeymoon" period after which you start to notice more issues you might have originally ignored (so things seem fine for the first few months)
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PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> How is everyone moving and also moving somewhere better? Several of us exited a toxic company semi-recently. For what it's worth, it was common for people to take minor cuts to total compensation. The old, toxic company had evolved to pay well because it was the only way they could retain people (however briefly) through the obvious toxicity. We just didn't talk about it publicly much. But it didn't matter. Huge quality of life improvement and I don't really miss the extra money.
AlexCoventry 5y ago
It seems like many companies are more willing to offer high salaries to new hires than to give incumbent employees competitive raises.
majormajor 5y ago
In addition to the other comments, better for one person may not be better for the next person.
chadcmulligan 5y ago
I just ask if they do daily standups, and see what they say. It's a pretty good indicator. The more clueless the more religious they are about them (imho)

How is everyone moving and also moving somewhere better? Is it not the case that the majority of open job opportunities are ones other people have recently left from unhappiness?

zippergz 5y ago

I think there's a lot of "grass is greener" moves happening. Unless you have trusted friends working in a company, it is very hard to tell if it actually is better than your current situation until you've tried it. None of the sources of information available to an outsider (including Glassdoor reviews and HN posts extolling the virtues or sounding off about the horribleness of a given company) are particularly predictive of what your individual experience will be, from what I have seen. There's just too much variability, and too much bias in each narrator.

nijave 5y ago
Not only that, jobs seem to have a "honeymoon" period after which you start to notice more issues you might have originally ignored (so things seem fine for the first few months)

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PragmaticPulp 5y ago

> How is everyone moving and also moving somewhere better? Several of us exited a toxic company semi-recently. For what it's worth, it was common for people to take minor cuts to total compensation. The old, toxic company had evolved to pay well because it was the only way they could retain people (however briefly) through the obvious toxicity. We just didn't talk about it publicly much. But it didn't matter. Huge quality of life improvement and I don't really miss the extra money.

AlexCoventry 5y ago

It seems like many companies are more willing to offer high salaries to new hires than to give incumbent employees competitive raises.

majormajor 5y ago

In addition to the other comments, better for one person may not be better for the next person.

chadcmulligan 5y ago

I just ask if they do daily standups, and see what they say. It's a pretty good indicator. The more clueless the more religious they are about them (imho)