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Unfortunately Elementary's devs are too busy finding the right shades for the dark theme so there is no time left for your marginal features. These problems and

Unfortunately Elementary's devs are too busy finding the right shades for the dark theme so there is no time left for your marginal features. These problems and bugs are not tackled for years.

seph-reed 5y ago
Good looking design is something people tend take for granted until it's gone. If I'm going to be staring at something for many hours every day, those details really do matter to me. I tend to be able to fix everything else on my own.
- simion314 5y ago
  >If I'm going to be staring at something for many hours every day, Most people would stare at an IDE and browser many hours and not at the DE control's panel or File Manager, and IMO this core apps should have had the UI fixed years ago and not have stuff still changed at each updated.
  - seph-reed 5y ago
    I'm just arguing because I feel like talking to someone. But perhaps it's okay for this one distro to have an obsession with visual design? Maybe your anger should be at the distros that do all the things you want but are too ugly to use?
    - simion314 5y ago
      My DE, browser and IDE are themable and configurable so I set them up with whatever I think is usable >Maybe your anger should What wording in my comment can be interpreted as anger ? I did not intended that so I would like to understand and express myself better next time.
    - renzo88 5y ago
      > But perhaps it's okay for this one distro to have an obsession with visual design? The linux desktop is a house on fire, and elementaryos is standing in the living room holding up paint to a smoldering wall.
  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    > IMO this core apps should have had the UI fixed years ago and not have stuff still changed at each updated. I don't think elementaryOS's visuals have changed all that much? Certainly nothing like macOS, which has gone from Mavericks → Yosemite/Catalina → Big Sur in the same time frame.
azinman2 5y ago
Shouldn’t take took too long to find given everything is more/less derivative from macOS.
- lproven 5y ago
  It's not. This is regularly claimed but I can only presume it's by people who have never ever used a Mac, just looked at screenshots. It does not work in any way like a Mac.
  - azinman2 5y ago
    I work for Apple. I’ve definitely used a Mac. I’ve also used Elementary. Of course there are differences but overall the design is extremely derivative.
    - lproven 5y ago
      I thought so until I gave the thing a mini-review recently. Sure, it has a dock at the bottom and a panel at the top, but so do dozens of desktops now. It's the default layout of XFCE. That tells us nothing useful. It doesn't have a menu bar. It doesn't have a repositionable dock. It doesn't have Miller columns. It doesn't have a folder structure anything even vaguely like macOS'. It doesn't have app folder bundles, or drag-and-drop installation. There are no desktop icons, not even as an option. Apps don't have menus at all except a hamburger in some. Windows don't have title bars, they have something like CSD. It's a Linux. It's a slightly weird Linux but it's way less Mac-like than, say, GoboLinux is under the hood. Just because the desktop is quite clean and minimal, and there's a GNOME-like panel at the top, it has a passing cosmetic resemblance, no more. You could make Budgie, LXDE or LXQt, or MATE look much more like the macOS desktop than Pantheon is or could be. If anything it's more like iOS with overlapping windows than anything Mac-like.
      - azinman2 5y ago
        Components that are easily derivative: - Dock - Files aka Finder - Code aka Xcode - Global status bar icons - PiP - DND - App Store - Screen Time - Mail - Calendar - Camera - System Settings - The folders inside your Home folder, which absolutely resembles macOS Is everything a pixel for pixel rip? No. Does it use the same technology? No. But the UI/UX is more than just “inspired by” Apple. “Cosmetic resemblance” seems to suggest these things are coincidence, but when it’s clearly not.

Unfortunately Elementary's devs are too busy finding the right shades for the dark theme so there is no time left for your marginal features. These problems and bugs are not tackled for years.

seph-reed 5y ago

Good looking design is something people tend take for granted until it's gone. If I'm going to be staring at something for many hours every day, those details really do matter to me. I tend to be able to fix everything else on my own.

simion314 5y ago
>If I'm going to be staring at something for many hours every day, Most people would stare at an IDE and browser many hours and not at the DE control's panel or File Manager, and IMO this core apps should have had the UI fixed years ago and not have stuff still changed at each updated.
- seph-reed 5y ago
  I'm just arguing because I feel like talking to someone. But perhaps it's okay for this one distro to have an obsession with visual design? Maybe your anger should be at the distros that do all the things you want but are too ugly to use?
  - simion314 5y ago
    My DE, browser and IDE are themable and configurable so I set them up with whatever I think is usable >Maybe your anger should What wording in my comment can be interpreted as anger ? I did not intended that so I would like to understand and express myself better next time.
  - renzo88 5y ago
    > But perhaps it's okay for this one distro to have an obsession with visual design? The linux desktop is a house on fire, and elementaryos is standing in the living room holding up paint to a smoldering wall.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  > IMO this core apps should have had the UI fixed years ago and not have stuff still changed at each updated. I don't think elementaryOS's visuals have changed all that much? Certainly nothing like macOS, which has gone from Mavericks → Yosemite/Catalina → Big Sur in the same time frame.

azinman2 5y ago

Shouldn’t take took too long to find given everything is more/less derivative from macOS.

lproven 5y ago
It's not. This is regularly claimed but I can only presume it's by people who have never ever used a Mac, just looked at screenshots. It does not work in any way like a Mac.
- azinman2 5y ago
  I work for Apple. I’ve definitely used a Mac. I’ve also used Elementary. Of course there are differences but overall the design is extremely derivative.
  - lproven 5y ago
    I thought so until I gave the thing a mini-review recently. Sure, it has a dock at the bottom and a panel at the top, but so do dozens of desktops now. It's the default layout of XFCE. That tells us nothing useful. It doesn't have a menu bar. It doesn't have a repositionable dock. It doesn't have Miller columns. It doesn't have a folder structure anything even vaguely like macOS'. It doesn't have app folder bundles, or drag-and-drop installation. There are no desktop icons, not even as an option. Apps don't have menus at all except a hamburger in some. Windows don't have title bars, they have something like CSD. It's a Linux. It's a slightly weird Linux but it's way less Mac-like than, say, GoboLinux is under the hood. Just because the desktop is quite clean and minimal, and there's a GNOME-like panel at the top, it has a passing cosmetic resemblance, no more. You could make Budgie, LXDE or LXQt, or MATE look much more like the macOS desktop than Pantheon is or could be. If anything it's more like iOS with overlapping windows than anything Mac-like.
    - azinman2 5y ago
      Components that are easily derivative: - Dock - Files aka Finder - Code aka Xcode - Global status bar icons - PiP - DND - App Store - Screen Time - Mail - Calendar - Camera - System Settings - The folders inside your Home folder, which absolutely resembles macOS Is everything a pixel for pixel rip? No. Does it use the same technology? No. But the UI/UX is more than just “inspired by” Apple. “Cosmetic resemblance” seems to suggest these things are coincidence, but when it’s clearly not.