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I'm sure Parent read the article, but the question is why is this a big deal? For someone not in the live visual space, it's not immediately clear that an orang

by bryan0 5y ago

I'm sure Parent read the article, but the question is why is this a big deal? For someone not in the live visual space, it's not immediately clear that an orange dot in the corner is "totally unacceptable". > Imagine an orange dot appearing on top of every video billboard in Times Square. I don't think I would notice or care?

dangrossman 5y ago
> I don't think I would notice or care? Do you think none of the advertisers, or billboard owners, would notice or care? Those are the clients paying the people that read this site to create and run their live visuals. A 5 foot diameter orange dot on top of their ad is not what they signed off on. There is money at stake. Whether you care or not isn't relevant.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  As a New Yorker, I’d love to have that sort of visual feedback on the surveillance of Times Square, a public space. And whether I care is quite relevant.
  - dangrossman 5y ago
    Live visuals aren't making a recording, they're reacting to sound inputs in realtime. That's not surveillance. Times Square is already blanketed in actual surveillance unrelated to live visuals on billboards. https://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/ https://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/ https://worldcams.tv/united-states/new-york/times-square https://worldcams.tv/united-states/new-york/times-square https://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/times-square-live-streaming-street-view/10060.html https://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/times-square-live-strea...
    - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
      > Live visuals aren't making a recording, they're reacting to sound inputs in realtime. That's not surveillance. Potato, potato. If a billboard has a microphone attached, it's not unreasonable to put a visual tax on it. (Or the economic tax of using dedicated equipment. Nobody is running Times Square billboards off a Mac.)
Accacin 5y ago
It's their laptop, they are aware that something is capturing their audio input, and they don't want to be reminded of that in this particular instance. Frankly, it doesn't matter if you would notice or care.

by bryan0 5y ago

dangrossman 5y ago

> I don't think I would notice or care? Do you think none of the advertisers, or billboard owners, would notice or care? Those are the clients paying the people that read this site to create and run their live visuals. A 5 foot diameter orange dot on top of their ad is not what they signed off on. There is money at stake. Whether you care or not isn't relevant.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
As a New Yorker, I’d love to have that sort of visual feedback on the surveillance of Times Square, a public space. And whether I care is quite relevant.
- dangrossman 5y ago
  Live visuals aren't making a recording, they're reacting to sound inputs in realtime. That's not surveillance. Times Square is already blanketed in actual surveillance unrelated to live visuals on billboards. https://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/ https://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/ https://worldcams.tv/united-states/new-york/times-square https://worldcams.tv/united-states/new-york/times-square https://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/times-square-live-streaming-street-view/10060.html https://www.mylivestreams.com/webcam/times-square-live-strea...
  - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
    > Live visuals aren't making a recording, they're reacting to sound inputs in realtime. That's not surveillance. Potato, potato. If a billboard has a microphone attached, it's not unreasonable to put a visual tax on it. (Or the economic tax of using dedicated equipment. Nobody is running Times Square billboards off a Mac.)

Accacin 5y ago

It's their laptop, they are aware that something is capturing their audio input, and they don't want to be reminded of that in this particular instance. Frankly, it doesn't matter if you would notice or care.