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A good suggestion if you have the budget. NDI is also incredible for this. But small producers rely heavily on built-in I/O on their computers, and I suspect th

A good suggestion if you have the budget. NDI is also incredible for this. But small producers rely heavily on built-in I/O on their computers, and I suspect that the market share from small/amateur streamers using Apple products outsizes Apple’s revenue from large shops today. Big productions can afford Decklinks and media servers like Disguise D3.

MayeulC 5y ago
They surely have enough money to buy macbooks, and something like this is a fraction of the cost (seems about 10%). Of course, I'm also confident that software workarounds will exist in the meantime.
ridaj 5y ago
Small producers spend lots of money on equipment in that range of cost, even for ancillary things like lighting and cables. I think it's a great recommendation.
- thepasswordis 5y ago
  There are a lot of guys out there with 2016 era macbooks (cause it still has HDMI) running it into a projector to do visuals at small clubs and things like that. Maybe some of those guys scraped together enough money to buy one of the new macbooks (since it got HDMI back). Being forced to spend another $200 to get rid of a stupid orange dot would really sting.
  - emteycz 5y ago
    2015 was the last MacBook with HDMI. Anyways I agree with you but it's true there is a lot of the richer professionals too - those who buy the new maxxed out MacBooks.
    - DenseComet 5y ago
      Incredibly, the new Macbook Pros released this year have HDMI, a SD card slot, and MagSafe.
  - ridaj 5y ago
    Those guys can probably crop at the projector though and not lose too much? Last I played with projectors was around 2010 and back then crop controls already came standard
jinto36 5y ago
NDI is fantastic, having dealt with racks of gear for switching and video distribution before I get excited about the possibilities every time I play with it. Dedicated hardware for bridging NDI to input and output devices is also appearing. It's a lossy solution (the video is compressed, unlike SDI/HDMI) but for live productions I'd definitely be willing to use NDI throughout (cameras -> switching -> recording/projection/streaming). So long as they keep NDI Tools free. It would be great if they could also eventually build in some of the functionality of Dante (NDI is something like Dante but for video) since the Dante software toolkit is very much not free. I think Newtek has been on the right track.
- EricE 5y ago
  Birddog has a great selection of dedicated NDI hardware that we found to be rock solid. Indeed, we use three of the Flex 4K Out boxes to three projectors doing alpha blending to form a single virtual screen via ProPresenter and it works great! Especially since someone donated an M1 Mac Mini, not realizing it only supported two traditional external monitors. With NDI we could have an external monitor for the operator display then let ProPresenter generate three virtual monitors via NDI. We can send differently formatted "screens" via NDI to our OBS computer for streaming too - different configurations of lower thirds for texts, full screen mirroring of the main presentation display - whatever we need. NDI really works a treat and I will NEVER go back to analog video again! We also use the Birddog NDI PTZ cameras for streaming and some crude IMAG too - it's amazing how well NDI works.

MayeulC 5y ago

They surely have enough money to buy macbooks, and something like this is a fraction of the cost (seems about 10%). Of course, I'm also confident that software workarounds will exist in the meantime.

ridaj 5y ago

Small producers spend lots of money on equipment in that range of cost, even for ancillary things like lighting and cables. I think it's a great recommendation.

thepasswordis 5y ago
There are a lot of guys out there with 2016 era macbooks (cause it still has HDMI) running it into a projector to do visuals at small clubs and things like that. Maybe some of those guys scraped together enough money to buy one of the new macbooks (since it got HDMI back). Being forced to spend another $200 to get rid of a stupid orange dot would really sting.
- emteycz 5y ago
  2015 was the last MacBook with HDMI. Anyways I agree with you but it's true there is a lot of the richer professionals too - those who buy the new maxxed out MacBooks.
  - DenseComet 5y ago
    Incredibly, the new Macbook Pros released this year have HDMI, a SD card slot, and MagSafe.
- ridaj 5y ago
  Those guys can probably crop at the projector though and not lose too much? Last I played with projectors was around 2010 and back then crop controls already came standard

jinto36 5y ago

NDI is fantastic, having dealt with racks of gear for switching and video distribution before I get excited about the possibilities every time I play with it. Dedicated hardware for bridging NDI to input and output devices is also appearing. It's a lossy solution (the video is compressed, unlike SDI/HDMI) but for live productions I'd definitely be willing to use NDI throughout (cameras -> switching -> recording/projection/streaming). So long as they keep NDI Tools free. It would be great if they could also eventually build in some of the functionality of Dante (NDI is something like Dante but for video) since the Dante software toolkit is very much not free. I think Newtek has been on the right track.

EricE 5y ago
Birddog has a great selection of dedicated NDI hardware that we found to be rock solid. Indeed, we use three of the Flex 4K Out boxes to three projectors doing alpha blending to form a single virtual screen via ProPresenter and it works great! Especially since someone donated an M1 Mac Mini, not realizing it only supported two traditional external monitors. With NDI we could have an external monitor for the operator display then let ProPresenter generate three virtual monitors via NDI. We can send differently formatted "screens" via NDI to our OBS computer for streaming too - different configurations of lower thirds for texts, full screen mirroring of the main presentation display - whatever we need. NDI really works a treat and I will NEVER go back to analog video again! We also use the Birddog NDI PTZ cameras for streaming and some crude IMAG too - it's amazing how well NDI works.