>Isn't GTK where the CSD (client side decoration) is being forced onto every app No. GTK doesn't have any preference for decorations, you can use either one wh

>Isn't GTK where the CSD (client side decoration) is being forced onto every app No. GTK doesn't have any preference for decorations, you can use either one when writing GTK apps: https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/method.Window.set_decorated.html https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/method.Window.set_decorated.html The app developer gets to choose what decorations they support. Some app developers will choose to only support a certain type of decorations; that's an intentional design decision made as part of the app. In the past, GNOME app developers have chosen to use CSD and XFCE developers didn't, but there seems to be a shift from them towards CSD too. I've also seen some XFCE users saying they like the CSD.